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What do people usually end up paying for a live band at a reception? Thx, Julz
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Julz, It really depends on the part of the country you are from. In the San Francisco bay area, wedding dance bands normally go from $1,200 to $3,000 depending on the style of band and the popularity. You might be able to get a discount for Friday or Sunday. — Robert Kusters Silicon DJ Mobile Entertainment www.silicondj.com
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I only spent $160.00 on my fiance’s wedding band, it wasn’t live though, it was made of white gold! ~Shannan~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What do people usually end up paying for a live band at a >reception?
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We’re getting a single musician (but our favorite) for $500 total. Worth it. Music is how we met, and her music in particular helped bring us together. Music is very important to us and is the one place where we’re paying top dollar to hire a professional (everything else being "do-it-yourself" to the n-th degree.) However, for more "generic" musicans I would expect to pay $75-100 per person. And if my fiance hadn’t nabbed my favorite local musician for his best man, we probably would have gotten our wedding music free… <grin> Jenrose
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> Just for the record, I am NOT one of the alt.wedding photographers mentioned by > Leslie. I am sure that Leslie will confirm that. I only wish I could have > done more.
Argh. Yes. I thought I’d made that clear, but I omitted a word. The "evil" photogs I mentioned are all FORMER a.w participants, and Rick Rosen and Rick Martin in particular were instrumental in helping me out. For the record, the images (the ones I got, and when I finally got them) were a beautiful reminder of my day. The bad experiences I’ve had didn’t mar my "big day," as it were, at all. -Leslie
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> > Just for the record, I am NOT one of the alt.wedding photographers mentioned by > Leslie. I am sure that Leslie will confirm that. I only wish I could have > done more. > Argh. Yes. I thought I’d made that clear, but I omitted a word. The "evil" > photogs I mentioned are all FORMER a.w participants, and Rick Rosen and > Rick Martin in particular were instrumental in helping me out.
Considering that Kim Law posted trying to find Simmons in June 1999, Kevin Tallant posted of his problems with Simmons in December 1999 and Simmons had one complaint to the BBB under her previous business name by that time, Simmons did have a budding track record of unprofessional misconduct (for lack of a nicer word) prior to your wedding in September 2000. Would you have hired Simmons if the photographers of alt.wedding had been more vocal in thier criticism of her treatment of clients?
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From the playback…. > Would you have hired Simmons if the photographers of > alt.wedding had been more vocal in thier criticism of her treatment of
clients? I object Your honor, JH is leading the witness… he he, always wanted to use that phrase…. I think it was vocal enough. With all the fighting that went on here who was to believe anybody about anything? Karen could sell Ice on the Alaskan Frontier. She is almost as smooth as some others here. People are easily swayed by good salespersons and websites. Business ethics are another category and I sensed an air of arrogance about her combined with poor business training usually resulting in large flaming business crashes….. (B>)# I wish you well, Al Jacobson Website: www.aljacobs.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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I remember well the love-hate relationship here….this brings the toll to about three, maybe four years the photog battles went on….actually several of the other groups like rec.photo.technique.people died off as a result of a few….. Pierce puts it on. I did a fast review for a couple groups, it’s up on my site — (B>)# I wish you well, Al Jacobson Website: www.aljacobs.com
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Pierce puts it on. I did a fast review for a couple groups, it’s up on my site >> Al, Thanks for the heads up. I’ll check it out. Best regards, Rick Rosen Newport Beach, CA www.rickrosen.com
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<< > Would you have hired Simmons if the photographers of > alt.wedding had been more vocal in thier criticism of her treatment of
clients? I object Your honor, JH is leading the witness… I think it was vocal enough. With all the fighting that went on here who was to believe anybody about anything? >> What also needs to be remembered is it was Jeanne Hinds herself who was constantly fighting with all the photographers here. For her to somehow now try and hint that some photographers here were culpable for not speaking out is so very typical of her. The "phototoads, photofreaks, phototrolls, photomorons, etc., etc., etc.," as she called the group of professional wedding photographers had enough to do here just dealing with Jeanne Hinds. Her insulting little stories like "The Christmas Mice" and how she was castrating her goat "Little Rickie" with a rusty razor blade and her libelous web page "exposes" on myself and others were a major part of alt.wedding in those years and a major reason why so many people left here; both photographers and consumers alike. She destroyed, IMO, for her own selfish personal reasons what could have been a very valuable resource to answer consumer questions on wedding photography. In that way, IMO, she is just another troll like the others who harass the participants here. Between her personal attacks at myself and others as well as her constant attacks on our profession it kept those of us who were honest and ethical very busy just dealing with her harassments. Many of the photographers left alt.wedding because of her attacks and I had to deal with her ethics complaint she filed with my professional organization (PPA) that the organization dismissed as groundless and without any merit. PPA would have refused to even accept the complaint from her because she was not a customer nor had she ever met me face-to-face but their bylaws at the time did not have any provisions for dealing with such an internet harassment against a member so they had to go through the process in place. She also contacted the PPA about two other photographers. From the minute her complaint on me was filed by her she tried to make a case all over Usenet about how I was being investigated by PPA for ethics violations. She filed the complaint and before PPA even met to address the validity (they found it totally meritless) she constantly tried and convicted me here (which was totally against the requested protocol of PPA). So I was busy constantly responding to her posts by reminding everyone that I had not been found guilty of anything yet. I did not want her attacks and libelous statements to stand without a response because they would be archived. What could be said was that Jeanne Hinds actually created an atmosphere here that allowed for the problems that she now is trying to blame others for. Best regards, Rick Rosen Newport Beach, CA www.rickrosen.com
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thanks, this is the next vendor on my gotta find list. I’ll include your items on my check list.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> choosing your photographer > Written by J. Witasick > a.. Experience Level – Has this person photographed other weddings? > Does he/she do this for a living or for fun? In this industry, photographers > come and go daily. A brand new one may be pretty good, and everyone has to > start somewhere, but do you want to trust your once in a lifetime event to a > newcomer? > b.. Photographic Style – Are the images that you are shown, what you > would like to see? Can you picture yourself photographed the same way? Is > there a satisfactory mix in different styles? There are "buzz" words flying > about everywhere about photojournalism, formal, classic contemporary, and so > on. All colorful adjectives aside; do YOU like it? > c.. Truth in Advertising – Is this the photographer that will be > photographing your wedding or will they send in whom ever is available. > Don’t be shocked, this happens more often than you can imagine. Be certain > that you know which photographer is going to be there and see HIS/HER work > and meet them. > d.. Personality – Is the photographer that you meet someone that you > can get along with? Is the "chemistry" there? People have walked away from > hairstylists and tailors for less. This is a person that you are going to > spend most of the day with; the most important day. Could you handle it? > Does he or she seem service oriented? > e.. Appearance – Ask the photographer how he/she intends to dress. > The last thing that you want is a conflict at the wedding about the > photographer wearing a sweatshirt and jeans with sneakers at your favorite > country club. Is this person well groomed? > f.. Price Range – Although, the last thing you want to do is shop by > price, is this person within your budget? If not, is he or she worth the > difference? A lot of times we tend to surpass our budget constraints to get > what we really want. If you see and like it, you’ll find a way. In any case, > make sure you understand what everything costs, including reorders. > g.. Delivery – How long does it take to get your proofs back, your > finished album, your bridal portrait, etc.? Go ahead and ask. Some > photographers take months to deliver your proofs. Be sure of how long things > take to turn around. > h.. Offering – Whether it’s a la Carte or packages, do you > understand what you get? Is there any room for changes and will it cost to > do so? Sometimes the packages are fixed, sometimes they can be customized, > in any case, ask. How much time will he spend? What if you need more time? > Make sure that you know what’s coming. > i.. Contract – Do you understand the contract. Is it fair? Is > everything spelled out? When it comes down going to court, only what is > WRITTEN really counts, not what was promised. Make sure that you have no > doubts before signing. Read it ALL. > j.. References – A personal reference is always the best and people > love to talk. Get a list of references from the photographer and check them > out personally. A photographer who doesn’t have references or is afraid to > give them to you may not be the person that you need to hire. > Eric Fernandes > Rowes Photography Studios > www.rowesphotography.com > Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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choosing your photographer Written by J. Witasick a.. Experience Level – Has this person photographed other weddings? Does he/she do this for a living or for fun? In this industry, photographers come and go daily. A brand new one may be pretty good, and everyone has to start somewhere, but do you want to trust your once in a lifetime event to a newcomer? b.. Photographic Style – Are the images that you are shown, what you would like to see? Can you picture yourself photographed the same way? Is there a satisfactory mix in different styles? There are "buzz" words flying about everywhere about photojournalism, formal, classic contemporary, and so on. All colorful adjectives aside; do YOU like it? c.. Truth in Advertising – Is this the photographer that will be photographing your wedding or will they send in whom ever is available. Don’t be shocked, this happens more often than you can imagine. Be certain that you know which photographer is going to be there and see HIS/HER work and meet them. d.. Personality – Is the photographer that you meet someone that you can get along with? Is the "chemistry" there? People have walked away from hairstylists and tailors for less. This is a person that you are going to spend most of the day with; the most important day. Could you handle it? Does he or she seem service oriented? e.. Appearance – Ask the photographer how he/she intends to dress. The last thing that you want is a conflict at the wedding about the photographer wearing a sweatshirt and jeans with sneakers at your favorite country club. Is this person well groomed? f.. Price Range – Although, the last thing you want to do is shop by price, is this person within your budget? If not, is he or she worth the difference? A lot of times we tend to surpass our budget constraints to get what we really want. If you see and like it, you’ll find a way. In any case, make sure you understand what everything costs, including reorders. g.. Delivery – How long does it take to get your proofs back, your finished album, your bridal portrait, etc.? Go ahead and ask. Some photographers take months to deliver your proofs. Be sure of how long things take to turn around. h.. Offering – Whether it’s a la Carte or packages, do you understand what you get? Is there any room for changes and will it cost to do so? Sometimes the packages are fixed, sometimes they can be customized, in any case, ask. How much time will he spend? What if you need more time? Make sure that you know what’s coming. i.. Contract – Do you understand the contract. Is it fair? Is everything spelled out? When it comes down going to court, only what is WRITTEN really counts, not what was promised. Make sure that you have no doubts before signing. Read it ALL. j.. References – A personal reference is always the best and people love to talk. Get a list of references from the photographer and check them out personally. A photographer who doesn’t have references or is afraid to give them to you may not be the person that you need to hire. Eric Fernandes Rowes Photography Studios www.rowesphotography.com Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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>In fact, >I just got into a very heated email exchange with her photographer recently >as >we do seem to disagree on so many things.
Let’s name names here: the photographer you’re talking about is KAREN SIMMONS. Ron Ng Knows!
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<< I got royally hosed by my OOT photographer who was neither local to my wedding town, where I live now, or where my family lives. A friend of mine has just this fall undergone a similar situation with a photog who’s not local to her or her family. Another friend is still tracking down her photog who closed up shop–and they were local! Incidentally, all three photogs were alt.wedding photogs. From what I know of the current aw photogs, however, they are all reputable businesspeople who went above and beyond the call of duty to assist me when I was in the most dire of wedding photography straits. In the end, my advice is to hire someone who will give you a local contact LOCATION, though that’s not foolproof. And play hardball from the moment something goes wrong–don’t play nice for too long. Oh yeah, and look for someone whose style you adore. -Leslie >> Just for the record, I am NOT one of the alt.wedding photographers mentioned by Leslie. I am sure that Leslie will confirm that. I only wish I could have done more. I did try to assist her as did another very ethical AW photographer. In fact, I just got into a very heated email exchange with her photographer recently as we do seem to disagree on so many things. Best regards, Rick Rosen Newport Beach, CA www.rickrosen.com
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what a story. I hope you were able to get the photographs and that they were pleasing to you and your husband. I will take your advice and thank you very much!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In the end, my advice is to hire someone who will give you a local contact > LOCATION, though that’s not foolproof. And play hardball from the moment > something goes wrong–don’t play nice for too long. Oh yeah, and look for > someone whose style you adore.
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> where did everyone find their photographers? How did you go about searching > for one? > What sources did you ask?
I made an excel spreadsheet with details for each photographer. I looked for local websites (since there I could see their work), and recommendations from the sites I liked, and on and on. I also asked recently married friends, but I was getting married 250 miles from where I lived. I wasn’t too keen on the photogs my friends hired. So, I went out on a limb and hired someone from out of town. References are virtually useless, since the photog is only going to give you the phone numbers of people who have been pleased with his/her work. Trust me, I asked for references and was pleased with the responses. My advice is to hire someone local to your wedding site (if you go there often) or you own hometown. I got royally hosed by my OOT photographer who was neither local to my wedding town, where I live now, or where my family lives. A friend of mine has just this fall undergone a similar situation with a photog who’s not local to her or her family. Another friend is still tracking down her photog who closed up shop–and they were local! Incidentally, all three photogs were alt.wedding photogs. From what I know of the current aw photogs, however, they are all reputable businesspeople who went above and beyond the call of duty to assist me when I was in the most dire of wedding photography straits. In the end, my advice is to hire someone who will give you a local contact LOCATION, though that’s not foolproof. And play hardball from the moment something goes wrong–don’t play nice for too long. Oh yeah, and look for someone whose style you adore. -Leslie
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>where did everyone find their photographers? How did you go about searching >for one? >What sources did you ask?
Consider word of mouth — speaking to friends and family who were getting married themselves or involved in wedding and find out who they used. Good professional image makers try to work hard to satisfy their cliental because they know word of mouth is a powerful tool. Just a thought. CJ
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> << There are many "associations" and organizations that photographers may > or > may not belong to, but it hardly matters. The only thing I ever got from > any of the three professional associations to which I belonged was a break > on my insurance. 
> Most important is the ability of whomever you choose to satisfy YOUR > expectations, not show up with 20 membership cards and no talent. >> > I don’t agree with your assessment that the professional organizations of > PPA > and WPPI have little value. I will agree that belonging to them should > not be > the only deciding factor in choosing a photographer. I also do not agree > with > another poster who said that the "degreed" PPA photographers (CPP, Master, > etc.) were the most desireable to hire. > Jeeze, talk about coming down firmly on both sides of an issue… What’s > it gonna be? If the PPA is so great then why are their classifications so > bad? > Anyway, people should know up front, all it takes to be a member of the PPA > is about three hundred bucks… that’s it. No qualifications, no tests, no > peer review. Pay your money and you are a "Pro". Actually, I believe you > can get a cheaper membership than that if you do not profess to be a wedding > shooter… wedding shooters get sued more often than most so they padded our > membership fee. > As a professional photographer I would add that the benefit to the > consumer of > their photographer being a subscribing member of PPA is that PPA does have > a > mediation service which will help clients and photographers settle any > differences they may have. WPPI does not have such a program. > Settle differences? By the time it reaches the "settling differences" > stage, there is precious little that is going to satisfy both parties, > professional membership or no professional membership. > As a long time member of PPA, WPPI, NPS and also the Society of Advertising, > Commercial & Magazine Photographers of Australia (ACMP) I can tell you that > my membership in these organizations did not benefit any of my clients one > iota. Ever. > By the way, only the ACMP required a peer review of my work to join. Every > other photography "professional" organization I have seen only required you > to send them money. How valuable is THAT to a consumer? > Once again, from the happy couple’s point of view, if a photographer shows > up with a dozen membership cards and no talent, they are in trouble. > Tom > –== Retired and loving it. This is the most entertaining group on > USENET 
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It’s the same for DJ’s. Send in some money and your memeber of this or that PRO DJ group. Niki,
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<< Jeeze, talk about coming down firmly on both sides of an issue… What’s it gonna be? If the PPA is so great then why are their classifications so bad? >> Simply because, IMO, they stifle individual creativity. PPA photographers that are pursuing those merits to get the certifications have their images judged by a panel of PPA photographers. To be successful you need to "play the game" right by submitting images and prints that you know will please the judging panel. It’s not a matter of exhibiting your creative photographic talent but rather an issue of knowing what the judges like. As you probably know, there are professional labs that offer specific services to make your prints EXACTLY what the judges are looking for. Obviously, the lab does not PICK the images you submit but there are also "pre-judging" sessions where PPA photographers can submit a selection of their images to be reviewed by "off-duty" PPA judges who will advise the photographer on which images to submit for judging. << Settle differences? By the time it reaches the "settling differences" stage, there is precious little that is going to satisfy both parties, professional membership or no professional membership. >> Obviously it does take two working together to settle anything. PPA’s arbitration service may not be worth much (I don’t know as I have never had a customer complaint I could not solve myself, let alone one that had to be mediated through them) but it is an option to the consumer in a field where there are very few options. << By the way, only the ACMP required a peer review of my work to join. Every other photography "professional" organization I have seen only required you to send them money. How valuable is THAT to a consumer? Once again, from the happy couple’s point of view, if a photographer shows up with a dozen membership cards and no talent, they are in trouble. Tom >> We agree on this. I never said that a PPA photographer automatically qualifies them as having any value in talent and anyone with the dues can join. Most of the truely talented photographers I know may be members but they don’t follow the crowd dogma like lemmings. For example, who made the rule that every family portrait needed to have the entire group dressed in white shirts and khakis or blue jeans? I was down at my local beach last week shooting an engagement session for a couple and there were three PPA photographers doing family portrait sessions. EVERYONE in every family was dressed in new, starched white shirts with two groups in khaki pants and one in blue jeans. All in all there were three guys shooting about 60 people all dressed the same. It was really hilarious to see. Nothing replaces individual talent and that is the first thing the client should be looking for. No doubt about that. Best regards, Rick Rosen Newport Beach, CA www.rickrosen.com
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> << There are many "associations" and organizations that photographers may or > may not belong to, but it hardly matters. The only thing I ever got from > any of the three professional associations to which I belonged was a break > on my insurance. > Most important is the ability of whomever you choose to satisfy YOUR > expectations, not show up with 20 membership cards and no talent. >> > I don’t agree with your assessment that the professional organizations of PPA > and WPPI have little value. I will agree that belonging to them should not be > the only deciding factor in choosing a photographer. I also do not agree with > another poster who said that the "degreed" PPA photographers (CPP, Master, > etc.) were the most desireable to hire.
Jeeze, talk about coming down firmly on both sides of an issue… What’s it gonna be? If the PPA is so great then why are their classifications so bad? Anyway, people should know up front, all it takes to be a member of the PPA is about three hundred bucks… that’s it. No qualifications, no tests, no peer review. Pay your money and you are a "Pro". Actually, I believe you can get a cheaper membership than that if you do not profess to be a wedding shooter… wedding shooters get sued more often than most so they padded our membership fee. > As a professional photographer I would add that the benefit to the consumer of > their photographer being a subscribing member of PPA is that PPA does have a > mediation service which will help clients and photographers settle any > differences they may have. WPPI does not have such a program.
Settle differences? By the time it reaches the "settling differences" stage, there is precious little that is going to satisfy both parties, professional membership or no professional membership. As a long time member of PPA, WPPI, NPS and also the Society of Advertising, Commercial & Magazine Photographers of Australia (ACMP) I can tell you that my membership in these organizations did not benefit any of my clients one iota. Ever. By the way, only the ACMP required a peer review of my work to join. Every other photography "professional" organization I have seen only required you to send them money. How valuable is THAT to a consumer? Once again, from the happy couple’s point of view, if a photographer shows up with a dozen membership cards and no talent, they are in trouble. Tom –== Retired and loving it. This is the most entertaining group on USENET ==–
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<< There are many "associations" and organizations that photographers may or may not belong to, but it hardly matters. The only thing I ever got from any of the three professional associations to which I belonged was a break on my insurance. Most important is the ability of whomever you choose to satisfy YOUR expectations, not show up with 20 membership cards and no talent. >> I don’t agree with your assessment that the professional organizations of PPA and WPPI have little value. I will agree that belonging to them should not be the only deciding factor in choosing a photographer. I also do not agree with another poster who said that the "degreed" PPA photographers (CPP, Master, etc.) were the most desireable to hire. As a professional photographer I would add that the benefit to the consumer of their photographer being a subscribing member of PPA is that PPA does have a mediation service which will help clients and photographers settle any differences they may have. WPPI does not have such a program. As for searches for photographers on various search sites like The Knot, I can also suggest another site with tons of photographers all over the country called www.101photographers.com. Keep in mind though that all of these sites charge a fee to advertise and generally speaking do not screen the photographers for professionalism, etc. For that reason alone I still feel that recommendations from friends and your wedding coordinator (if you are using one) or your venue is a good starting place. Contrary to the conception by some that all vendors pay a commission to these people for the referrals that is not the norm, at least here in So. CA with the successful photographers. I pay no commissions to anyone and my business is 100% referral based. I pay for no further advertising except for being listed on a few of the vendor search engines online. Best regards, Rick Rosen Newport Beach, CA www.rickrosen.com
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wow, thanks! I;m guess I’m going to be busy for a hour or two, clicking on web sites.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> All you need is a lot of money and you can join all the organizations you > want. > What it really comes down to is ones portfolio and the pictures in it. If > you like the photographers style and vision, this should warrant a call or > email. The next factor is the photographers personality, you should like his > personality cause the photographer will be interacting with all your best > friends and close family. If he/she has a good personality, their > interaction with you and everyone can really enhance the overall experience > and quality of images. > If you just downright hate the photographer, that will show up in the > photographs. If the photographer is able to make you smile, laugh, feel good > about everything, this will show up also in the images and you will have > wonderful images to have for the rest of your life. A good photographer will > capture the essence of your wedding and photograph the passion. A good wet > noodle of a shooter can and will throw water on the flames and then, well, > you know, you get the picture! Haha, had to throw that one in. > There are dozens of web sites out there that will help you find everything > you are looking for, here are some- > http://www.bridalseek.com > http://topweddingsites.com > http://www.alltimefavorites.com > http://www.best100weddingsites.com > http://www.weddinglinksgalore.com > http://www.allweddingcompanies.com > http://www.weddingmanor.com > http://www.wwwweddings.com > http://www.wedding-world.com > http://www.brides.com > http://planning.prodj.com > http://www.weddingglobe.com > http://www.deejayz.com > http://www.weddinglinksonline.com > http://www.photolinks.com/cgibin/webc.cgi/cgihome.html > The above list contains a few voting sites and I was just informed that > those are considered "bad". I included them only that you can determine that > if you so choose. > Also, some of the web sites above may be from photographers who paid to be > listed, others may be free. Some of the best shooters may not be on those > lists simply because they don’t need to be, they get plenty of business > through other forms of advertising or simply word of mouth. Try > Superpages.com and look under wedding photographers for your region or state > also. > Here are some associations addresses- > www.wppinow.com > www.ppa.com > Some of the associations have membership lists or other tools for finding a > photographer. Of course, it will be only for those who join or pay them. > Some photographers are not on these lists are quite talented and just as > good IMO. > There are plenty of other associations out there as well, and may be worth > looking into for what you are looking for, such as the NPPA, or National > Press Photographers Assoc. If you want someone that is a photojournalist, > get a real photojournalist and the NPPA is a good place to start, too. > Good luck and have a great wedding!
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All you need is a lot of money and you can join all the organizations you want. What it really comes down to is ones portfolio and the pictures in it. If you like the photographers style and vision, this should warrant a call or email. The next factor is the photographers personality, you should like his personality cause the photographer will be interacting with all your best friends and close family. If he/she has a good personality, their interaction with you and everyone can really enhance the overall experience and quality of images. If you just downright hate the photographer, that will show up in the photographs. If the photographer is able to make you smile, laugh, feel good about everything, this will show up also in the images and you will have wonderful images to have for the rest of your life. A good photographer will capture the essence of your wedding and photograph the passion. A good wet noodle of a shooter can and will throw water on the flames and then, well, you know, you get the picture! Haha, had to throw that one in. There are dozens of web sites out there that will help you find everything you are looking for, here are some- http://www.bridalseek.com http://topweddingsites.com http://www.alltimefavorites.com http://www.best100weddingsites.com http://www.weddinglinksgalore.com http://www.allweddingcompanies.com http://www.weddingmanor.com http://www.wwwweddings.com http://www.wedding-world.com http://www.brides.com http://planning.prodj.com http://www.weddingglobe.com http://www.deejayz.com http://www.weddinglinksonline.com http://www.photolinks.com/cgibin/webc.cgi/cgihome.html The above list contains a few voting sites and I was just informed that those are considered "bad". I included them only that you can determine that if you so choose. Also, some of the web sites above may be from photographers who paid to be listed, others may be free. Some of the best shooters may not be on those lists simply because they don’t need to be, they get plenty of business through other forms of advertising or simply word of mouth. Try Superpages.com and look under wedding photographers for your region or state also. Here are some associations addresses- www.wppinow.com www.ppa.com Some of the associations have membership lists or other tools for finding a photographer. Of course, it will be only for those who join or pay them. Some photographers are not on these lists are quite talented and just as good IMO. There are plenty of other associations out there as well, and may be worth looking into for what you are looking for, such as the NPPA, or National Press Photographers Assoc. If you want someone that is a photojournalist, get a real photojournalist and the NPPA is a good place to start, too. Good luck and have a great wedding!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> thanks. Sounds like you got a great deal. I’ve asked the people at work and > did get a recommendation but it was for an inexperienced photographer.. > I was hoping to find more websites listing local vendors, have found two so > far. > Anyone know if there’s any type of photographer’s association or > photographer certification? > thanks. > 7> I asked a lot of recently-married folks at work (I worked on a site that > had over 5,000 employees at the time). I found someone in another > department who did photography on weekends. > His quality was good, he was easy to work with, and the price was right. > One plus of working with this guy was that we got to keep the negatives.
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> thanks. Sounds like you got a great deal. I’ve asked the people at work and > did get a recommendation but it was for an inexperienced photographer.. > I was hoping to find more websites listing local vendors, have found two so > far. > Anyone know if there’s any type of photographer’s association or > photographer certification? > thanks.
There are many "associations" and organizations that photographers may or may not belong to, but it hardly matters. The only thing I ever got from any of the three professional associations to which I belonged was a break on my insurance. Most important is the ability of whomever you choose to satisfy YOUR expectations, not show up with 20 membership cards and no talent. Check around your area for referrals from friends and acquaintances, at bridal shops, churches and photo studios. MOST importantly, see one of his/her *complete* wedding packages, not just a pick of the litter demo portfolio. You asked about "local vendors" but did not say where "local" was. You also did not mention a budget, which is very important. Tom
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There are two main national associations; PPA = Professional Photographers of America, who offer several certification or degree programs, although none are specific to weddings. Look for a CPP or Certified Professional Photographer or a Master Photographer. WPPI = Wedding and Portrait Photographers International There are also state and local assocations. I hope this helps. David Lowrance, CPP Lowrance Photography www.lowrancephoto.com DFW metroplex wedding photography – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->thanks. Sounds like you got a great deal. I’ve asked the people at work and >did get a recommendation but it was for an inexperienced photographer.. >I was hoping to find more websites listing local vendors, have found two so >far. >Anyone know if there’s any type of photographer’s association or >photographer certification? >thanks. >7> I asked a lot of recently-married folks at work (I worked on a site that > had over 5,000 employees at the time). I found someone in another > department who did photography on weekends. > His quality was good, he was easy to work with, and the price was right. > One plus of working with this guy was that we got to keep the negatives.
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I joined www.theknot.com and they have a local resource page. It had quite a few photographers. There is also www.wedj.com and they are a wedding dj and photographer site. Both have quite a few to choose from. Good Luck Sarah
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> thanks. Sounds like you got a great deal. I’ve asked the people at work and > did get a recommendation but it was for an inexperienced photographer.. > I was hoping to find more websites listing local vendors, have found two so > far. > Anyone know if there’s any type of photographer’s association or > photographer certification? > thanks. > 7> I asked a lot of recently-married folks at work (I worked on a site that > had over 5,000 employees at the time). I found someone in another > department who did photography on weekends. > His quality was good, he was easy to work with, and the price was right. > One plus of working with this guy was that we got to keep the negatives.
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thanks. Sounds like you got a great deal. I’ve asked the people at work and did get a recommendation but it was for an inexperienced photographer.. I was hoping to find more websites listing local vendors, have found two so far. Anyone know if there’s any type of photographer’s association or photographer certification? thanks.
7> I asked a lot of recently-married folks at work (I worked on a site that – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> had over 5,000 employees at the time). I found someone in another > department who did photography on weekends. > His quality was good, he was easy to work with, and the price was right. > One plus of working with this guy was that we got to keep the negatives.
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where did everyone find their photographers? How did you go about searching for one? What sources did you ask? thanks
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> where did everyone find their photographers? How did you go about searching > for one? > What sources did you ask? > thanks
I asked a lot of recently-married folks at work (I worked on a site that had over 5,000 employees at the time). I found someone in another department who did photography on weekends. His quality was good, he was easy to work with, and the price was right. One plus of working with this guy was that we got to keep the negatives. — aMAZon "It’s never too late to have a happy childhood."
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Thinking of buying a Stringray 4-string. Am in a rock(ish) cover band and want to start playing funkier stuff on a bass with a bit more punch than my current Axe. Anyone got an opinion on them? Miles.
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> Thinking of buying a Stringray 4-string. Am in a rock(ish) cover band and > want to start playing funkier stuff on a bass with a bit more punch than my > current Axe. > Anyone got an opinion on them?
They are synonymous with funky. The gold standard of slapping. Nice freakin basses. — /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H / | http://www.toddh.net/ X Promoting good netiquette | http://triplethreatband.com/ / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
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But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other stuff? What if you don’t slap, for instance?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thinking of buying a Stringray 4-string. Am in a rock(ish) cover band and > want to start playing funkier stuff on a bass with a bit more punch than my > current Axe. > Anyone got an opinion on them? > They are synonymous with funky. The gold standard of slapping. > Nice freakin basses. > — > /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H > / | http://www.toddh.net/ > X Promoting good netiquette | http://triplethreatband.com/ > / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
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> But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other stuff? > What if you don’t slap, for instance?
Nah, not funk only. They’re plenty versatile. I’ve seen guys that never slap at all use them to fine effect. — /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H / | http://www.toddh.net/ X Promoting good netiquette | http://triplethreatband.com/ / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
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I play funk, slap, rock, blues, Top 40, and my Stingray 5 fits the bill wonderfully. You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter Gabriel and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . .
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other stuff? > What if you don’t slap, for instance? > Nah, not funk only. They’re plenty versatile. I’ve seen guys that > never slap at all use them to fine effect. > — > /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H > / | http://www.toddh.net/ > X Promoting good netiquette | http://triplethreatband.com/ > / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
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I know. I downloaded the video to "Aeroplane" the other day. He plays a Stingray 4 in that to great effect. He makes it look so damn easy too!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I play funk, slap, rock, blues, Top 40, and my Stingray 5 fits the bill > wonderfully. > You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter Gabriel > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . . > > But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other stuff? > > What if you don’t slap, for instance? > Nah, not funk only. They’re plenty versatile. I’ve seen guys that > never slap at all use them to fine effect. > — > /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H > / | http://www.toddh.net/ > X Promoting good netiquette |
http://triplethreatband.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
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I tried one out the other day and found it quite loose to play. I mentioned it in a thread called ‘String Tension’ the other day and was told that that was probably due to me being used to heavy gauge strings and the shop probably keeping medium / light strings on it on the display. Would you have anything to add to that discussion, with regards to Stingrays? My fear was that if they’re all loose to play, that playing fast / complex stuff on one might be difficult. Course I don’t know what i’m talking about, so… Miles.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I play funk, slap, rock, blues, Top 40, and my Stingray 5 fits the bill > wonderfully. > You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter Gabriel > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . . > > But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other stuff? > > What if you don’t slap, for instance? > Nah, not funk only. They’re plenty versatile. I’ve seen guys that > never slap at all use them to fine effect. > — > /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H > / | http://www.toddh.net/ > X Promoting good netiquette |
http://triplethreatband.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
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> I know. I downloaded the video to "Aeroplane" the other day. He plays a > Stingray 4 in that to great effect. He makes it look so damn easy too!
I think thats a modulus. Flea is sponsored by them
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Last year I saw a guy get a really nice ballsy tone out of his MM, playing blues. It should work for both. Also check out the G&L L2000, it’ll do the job too. MM is pretty popular here, but the few of us who use G&L love ‘em. Might save you a few $$ too. SteveO
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thinking of buying a Stringray 4-string. Am in a rock(ish) cover band and > want to start playing funkier stuff on a bass with a bit more punch than my > current Axe. > Anyone got an opinion on them? > Miles.
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> But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other stuff? > What if you don’t slap, for instance?
If you want more range of sounds, consider a MM Sterling. Lots of tones and a slim neck. Matthew
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Miles, I love both my StingRays (4 & 5), don’t slap a bit and can get a nice variety of sounds out of ‘em. I’ve tried a whole bunch of different strings on both of ‘em and have always come back to using the stock Ernie Ball strings. They just seem to have the right tension and tone for my hands and ears. All the EB/MM basses I’ve played have been consistently high quality. HTH, Ric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I tried one out the other day and found it quite loose to play. I mentioned > it in a thread called ‘String Tension’ the other day and was told that that > was probably due to me being used to heavy gauge strings and the shop > probably keeping medium / light strings on it on the display. Would you have > anything to add to that discussion, with regards to Stingrays? My fear was > that if they’re all loose to play, that playing fast / complex stuff on one > might be difficult. > Course I don’t know what i’m talking about, so… > Miles. > I play funk, slap, rock, blues, Top 40, and my Stingray 5 fits the bill > wonderfully. > You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter Gabriel > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . . > > > But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other > stuff? > > > What if you don’t slap, for instance? > > Nah, not funk only. They’re plenty versatile. I’ve seen guys that > > never slap at all use them to fine effect. > > — > > /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H > > / | http://www.toddh.net/ > > X Promoting good netiquette | > http://triplethreatband.com/ > > / http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/ | "4 lines suffice."
– "Some mornings it’s just not worth chewing through the leather straps." Ric Williams
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Music Man basses, regardless of model, are very versatile, and can be used quite effectively in most situations. They have a very focussed tone, which is difficult, if not impossible to EQ away. As a result, their "sonic signature" may be a little too agressive for some tastes. At the end of the day, I’ll play "Sunshine of my Life" at a wedding on saturday afternoon, and "Sunshine of your love" that same saturday night at a biker bar. Nobody complains about my MMSR5 at either venue! Tony Renaud
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Jeez, I forgot. Guitar shops are notorious for not keeping their instruments in proper tune. You may very well have been playing a MM that some kid dropped down to low "D" tuning. I bring a tuning fork to the shop sometimes to get a reference note, so I know for sure the bass I’m playing is at concert pitch! Tony Renaud
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>Music Man basses, regardless of model, are very versatile, and can be used >quite effectively in most situations. They have a very focussed tone, which is >difficult, if not impossible to EQ away. As a result, their "sonic signature" >may be a little too agressive for some tastes. At the end of the day, I’ll play >"Sunshine of my Life" at a wedding on saturday afternoon, and "Sunshine of your >love" that same saturday night at a biker bar. Nobody complains about my MMSR5 >at either venue! >Tony Renaud
I agree wholeheartedly with Tony. For about the last year, my MM Stingray 4 has become my main axe. I’ve used it in blues bands, hard rock bands, disco bands, classic rock bands, etc., and by simply using the tonal varieties available with my active pickups and/or the positioning of my right hand, I’ve had absolutely no problem achieving the tonal variety needed for the genre at hand. I’ve only heard compliments about my Stingray and it’s tone, never a complaint. It gets just about all my lovin’ lately, while my Rickenbacker 4001v63, Peavey Cirrus 5, and/or the rest of them rotate sitting on a stand collecting dust onstage for backup duty to my MMS4. Y’all know how it is – maybe next year it’ll be the Rickenbacker or the Peavey pulling main axe duties, while the Stingray gets no love, but for now it’s my beloved Stingray. http://www.noteworthymusic.net ** Change ".nospam" to ".com" to send an email **
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If you don’t slap, like Cliff Williams in AC/DC, you can still use a Stingray. Martin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> But are they a "funk only" machine, or versatile enough for other stuff? > What if you don’t slap, for instance? > > Thinking of buying a Stringray 4-string. Am in a rock(ish) cover band > and > > want to start playing funkier stuff on a bass with a bit more punch than > my > > current Axe. > > Anyone got an opinion on them? > They are synonymous with funky. The gold standard of slapping. > Nice freakin basses. > — > /" ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Todd H > / | http://www.toddh.net/ > X Promoting good netiquette |
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I thought that was recent thing … in any case, it looks like a Stringray
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know. I downloaded the video to "Aeroplane" the other day. He plays a > Stingray 4 in that to great effect. He makes it look so damn easy too! > I think thats a modulus. Flea is sponsored by them
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> You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter Gabriel > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . .
Apart from the fact that he uses a Wal in the studio… RS
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who? Flea?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter Gabriel > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . . > Apart from the fact that he uses a Wal in the studio… > RS
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yerp, Wal or Alembic on most of the older stuff, in the studio. m – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > who? Flea? > > You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter > Gabriel > > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . . > Apart from the fact that he uses a Wal in the studio… > RS
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If it’s "buy one, get one free", I might just do that. Miles.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve got a 4 and a 5 – the only electric basses I own. The are very > versatile – I’ve used them in groups that play jazz, wedding music, > power-trio pop, afro-pop, Cuban, worship, etc. > Heck, buy two! > — > be blessed…BP > Thinking of buying a Stringray 4-string. Am in a rock(ish) cover band and > want to start playing funkier stuff on a bass with a bit more punch than > my > current Axe. > Anyone got an opinion on them? > Miles.
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That sucks! I hate that sort of thing. They should be seen with the gear that made the tune. Causes confusion otherwise. MT
> yerp, Wal or Alembic on most of the older stuff, in the studio. > m
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> who? Flea? > > > You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter > Gabriel > > > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > > > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . . > > Apart from the fact that he uses a Wal in the studio… > > RS
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..and Stingrays and Modulus’s and Alembics and Jazzes and …… Wes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You want to hear the Stingray tone, listen to Tony Levin w/ Peter Gabriel > and King Crimson, listen to Paul Denman with Sade. I’d also tell you to > listen to old Chili Peppers, but nobody sounds quite like Flea . . . > Apart from the fact that he uses a Wal in the studio… > RS
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I’ve got a 4 and a 5 – the only electric basses I own. The are very versatile – I’ve used them in groups that play jazz, wedding music, power-trio pop, afro-pop, Cuban, worship, etc. Heck, buy two! — be blessed…BP
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thinking of buying a Stringray 4-string. Am in a rock(ish) cover band and > want to start playing funkier stuff on a bass with a bit more punch than my > current Axe. > Anyone got an opinion on them? > Miles.
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Flea said in Bass Player magazine that Aeroplane was the only song on that album that he used a Stingray. The rest of the album was cut with an Alembic Epic. Ernie Ball pulled their deal with Flea shortly after that interview, which came out after that album came out. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I thought that was recent thing … in any case, it looks like a Stringray >:) > > I know. I downloaded the video to "Aeroplane" the other day. He plays a > > Stingray 4 in that to great effect. He makes it look so damn easy too! >:) > I think thats a modulus. Flea is sponsored by them
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lol its just ive seen to many nightmares it started with the best intentions on paper but at the wedding it just flunked. also if I may ask why the list? I mean a list of songs you definately want to be played I can understand but a full list? Do you not have confidence in the experience of your Dj? you got me curious. btw june 1st .. that date is creeping up quick huh! congrats in advanced. Niki,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> the wedding hasn’t happened yet – it’s june 1st. :) however, we chose a > wide range of music everyone should enjoy as well as be familiar with. we > stuck to more popular songs for the dance songs as well as the slow songs > (outkast, blink 182, sum 41, kylie minogue, no doubt, weezer, sade, etc), > threw in a few classics (frank sinatra, louis armstrong, etc), then chose > some of our own (nick cave & the bad seeds, badly drawn boy, einsturzende > neubauten, etc). we’ve got a good mix, 99% of it you’d hear on the radio on > any given day (on the rock and mix stations), so everyone should be able to > recognize most of the songs. the ones 99% of the guests won’t, we slipped > in to spots where they’ll be having so much fun they won’t even notice. > did your guests agree with your type of music? > many Bride and Grooms come to me and say > I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC > or something like that, but the guests hate country or > want to hear some Rock N Roll, > niki, > > definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, they > > definitely want included. that can help set the mood for the rest of > the > > music as well. > > my fiancee and i picked all our music . . . we both have extremely broad > > musical tastes so wanted to be sure that everything we like and wanted > > included, was. we have nearly 4 hours of music . . . and this is just > for > a > > late afternoon cocktail/hor d’ouerve reception! :p we didn’t want to > have > > to spend the majority of the reception requesting songs . . . it is our > day > > after all! > > > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > > > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > > > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > > > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > > > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > > > the help I can get. > > > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > > > this group, > > > thanks for any input, etc, > > > john
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lol i play the instrumental strippers song ( big band sounding) for the removal and Mello Yellow’s OH YEAH to put the garter on the lady that caught the bouquet. and Kenny G for dinner music lol and you forgot about ELVIS crespo (popular spanish singer) > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy?
btw Nick Cave is a european/australian (i forget) singer never really hit te big time he had One huge hit in Europe Where the wild roses grow with Kylie minogue (kinda weird it was about him killing his gf .. actually all his songs are about murder) > Keep the OLD people away from the speakers!!!!! make sure they ae way in the > back of way off to the sides, nothing ruins a wedding more the aunt mary > complaining about how loud the music is during dinner!!!!
I wish everybody would remember this. dont forget that hearing aids make the music sooo much more louder for them. keep this in mind while making seating arrangements.! Niki,
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lol check your email! Niki,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Feel free to send me updates. > Aside from some of the song lists not covering newer music, what else > is "out of date"? > hmm quite elaborate > very outdated however. > > Check out the weddings section of part 3 of my DJ Tips guide at > > http://www.dancemasters.net/public/djguide3.htm#_Toc512391650 > Steve and Roberta Rothkin > Dancemasters Disc Jockey Entertainers, LLC–WE MAKE YOUR PARTY FUN! > 22A Hawkes Close, Ossining, NY 10562 > Voice: (914)762-4565 Toll-free (866)FUN-DJMC Fax: (914)762-4566 > Proud member of the American Disc Jockey Association
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> they’re musicians. they’re from england. they have incredible popularity > in the states. nick cave has been making records since the early 80s. it > saddens me to see someone call themself a dj yet have such a limited musical > scope. AND yet another reason to NOT hire a dj like you. no offense, i’m > just extremely particular about my music, the artists, and if someone is > going to be handling music for me they better know it well.
right on. i love nick and BDB. they have both written songs that are entirely wedding appropriate. i’m going to do music for my wedding myself because like you, i’m extremely particular about what i want to hear and why. so i’m going to pre-mix it on my laptop, with contributions from my friends before the event. i could just play all my indie faves, but for the sake of our older guests i’ve decided that the music will be ‘themed’, and i’ll most be doing an evening of 50’s wedding songs, spector, etc. we are not having speeches, first dances, any of that boring crap so it will just be one nice long set list. If I was going to play indie, it would be themed stuff like "Polyester Bride" by Liz Phair, "Hungarian Wedding Song" by Tori Amos, etc etc. my friends and family are not dancers. so i’m not compromising the music for the sake of some DJ who wants everyone on the dancefloor whether they want to be there or not. Fiona
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> You see i am a REAL DJ
The way you’re defending your personal music preference, you sound like a 14 year old. "Everything I don’t like SUCKS, AND I ROCK." If any of the venders at our wedding acted like that, we would have cancelled payment from the pay phone in the hall. Our caterer, our site manager, the cake lady, our musicians, our celebrant, they *all* worked with us, listened to our preferences and suggestions, and we were hugely happy with them all. All of our vendors were professional, respectful and they had great ideas *and* knew when to back the heck off when we listed any requirements. Any vendors who didn’t want to comply with our preferences were not given a contract. I can only hope people dealing with you just happen to have the exact same preferences as you, but I’m doubting it.
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oh and REAL djs make their own music…. they don’t switch out cds. places where they usally work for FREE to get a name , which is FEW and FAR between. I like making $5000 at Xmas time and paying off my credit cards and putting money away for retirement. I like people having fun and partying, But the truth is I make almost NO MONEY off of hip hop and alternative music. But its those overpayed BAD songs which STILL PACK THE DANCE FLOOR!!! When that STOPS happening rest assured I wont play Mony Mony again! DJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > hahahahhaa…. youll have to forgive me from laughing, but i’d much prefer > one song off my list from any of the cheesy, mundane, overplayed, bad songs > on your list. there is NO F*CKING WAY i would ever play the chicken dance > at my wedding. i have class. maybe you only work for white trash??? > smashmouth is the only remake thats on our list, and i do agree with you – > it is a shitty rendition and really doesnt do the original justice. > however, it is one that everyone will recognize. there are going to be a > lot of kids there (i have about 60 younger cousins), and theyre going to > recognize that version before they could even tell you who the monkees are > (were). > i’m with you on the beastie boys, thats for sure! wild and crazy music is > great. but not at a cocktail party. we want stuff everyone can (and will) > dance to, yet still be able to ignore if they want to chat. somehow joan > jett just doesn’t set that mood. > so because you’ve never had some of these artists (badly drawn boy, nick > cave, einsturzende neubauten) on your list means they don’t exist? that > they’re unsuitable? that they make bad music?? thats a narrow minded view > if ive ever heard one. > latin music does have a passion many of todays american artists lack. > however, there are plenty of good artists out there (see my list) who make > serious music, or who instead don’t at all take themselves seriously (blink > 182, sum 41, etc) who are only about having fun – and that’s what i plan on > doing at my wedding. > and again, it all goes back to the music *we* like. i don’t want 3 hours of > old, overplayed, oft-ignored, and unappealing music. and that’s that. > oh and REAL djs make their own music…. they don’t switch out cds. > Jen: > lets > face it most of these songs are NOT for dancing. > So you are right you would not hire me and I would NOT want you for a > client > either. > I am a New York City Kick ass rock and Roll DJ, my job is to make people > dance a > may be > raunchy but not cheesy, I don’t get out there and do the electric slide > or the > chicken dance …nope I try at all costs not to play them, > But you are right it is your day, and if you have the people who > appreciate > Green Day’s Smashmouths, or Blink 182, Krappy remakes of GREAT > SUCK! And would rather hear the Monkees "I’m a Believer" any day of > the > week! > So these people nick cave, badly drwn boy are never in any play list i > ever > had, Gimme ZZ TOP Joan Jett, Gimme Kurtis Blow "the Breaks" gimme > Run > DMC, "Rockbox" gimme wild and crazy music Playing animal houses > "Shout" > into "No Sleep till Brooklyn" Beastie boys! > Gimme latin music, and now my personal fav is Cajun Zydeco music from > Louisiana, REAL people singing, REAL instruments Real guitars and drums, > REAL > SOUL, not MOBY’s of lack of soul. > You see i am a REAL DJ > DJ > > because i won’t pay someone to do a job i can do myself. :) > > i’ve responded to each of your comments. see below. > > > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the > car > > but > > > NOT a ta wedding. > > for some weddings sure. but, this is our day, so it gets to be > everything > > *we* want it to be. we’re having an informal cocktail & hor d’ouerve > > reception, NO DINNER, and we want to promote dancing. so we picked > current > > popular songs *we* like. > > > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why > not > > play > > > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still > feed > > me > > > when im 64! perfect. > > you just gave away your trick. ;p no dj has any trick that a) i can’t > > think of, or b) i am guaranteed to like. we’re having a relatively > > unconventional wedding, and we hate ALL things cheesy (and djs tend to > be > > quite cheesy at weddings, like this suggestion you made). they’ll be no > > tricks . . . this is our show. > > > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > > see what i mean by cheesy?? thats the kind of suggestion that would > make me > > NOT hire a dj. PLUS we’re not throwing the garter because honestly, > thats a > > little dirty. > > > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play > a > > merengue > > > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > > after the slow songs, we’re actually gonna break the ice with > smashmouth’s > > rendition of "i’ a believer" (featured in shrek). it’s a song everyone > > (even the kids, because of shrek) will recognize. its a funny happy > bouncy > > song about love. > > > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless > its > > > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent > wedding > > song, > > > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night > instead > > of > > > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > > um, what? wanna rephrase that in english? we’ll probably have song > elvis, > > as my fiancee is a fan. last dance reggae is your decision. and again, > > cheesy. > > > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > > no dinner. no dinner music. and i despise enya. > > > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > > they’re musicians. they’re from england. they have incredible > popularity > > in the states. nick cave has been making records since the early 80s. > it > > saddens me to see someone call themself a dj yet have such a limited > musical > > scope. AND yet another reason to NOT hire a dj like you. no offense, > i’m > > just extremely particular about my music, the artists, and if someone is > > going to be handling music for me they better know it well. > > > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No > doubt > > this is > > > a Great GIRL song! > > we have that no doubt song in our list actually. i’m not a fan of > shakira: > > i don’t like sellouts (her older stuff was much better but alas, you > > sellout, you’re off my list). > > > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, > move > > it" > > again with the cheesy! i hate that crap haha. again, this is MY > wedding, i > > don’t want to hear songs i DON’T like. > > > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > > > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be > good > > choices > > the 80s should stay in the 80s where they belong. some of the music is > > good, some of it i like, but theres about 200 songs in front of them. > > how about 3-4 hours worth of different songs?! > > that all being said, below is our current song list. we have yet to > listen > > to the songs together and make sure they segway into each other well > enough, > > and that we want them for sure…and i keep thinking of more to add > (soon > > we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). > > > badly drawn boy – The Shining (this is the song we’ll be dancing > to……its > > the song about love on the album we fell in love listening to) > > nick cave – No more shall we part > > fleming & john – Love Songs > > smashmouth – I’m a believer > > ani difranco – Ain’t that the Way. > > percy faith – Theme for young lovers > > dean martin – Aint that a kick in the head > > sade – Lovers rock > > leonard cohen – im your man > > badly drwan bpy – Disillusion > > einsturzende neubauten – Stella Maris > > oasis – fuckin in the bushes > > moby – bodyrock > > outkast – whole world > > young mc – bust a move > > jamiroquai – canned heat > > cake – Short Skirt Long Jacket > > weezer – island in the sun > > bob mould – a good idea > > blink 182 – 8675309 (jenny) [cover] > > cornershop – brimful of asha > > sinatra – if you are but a dream > > sade – by your side > > leonard cohen – hallelujah > > madonna – dj put a record on > > kylie minogue – cant get you out of my head > > fatboy slim – praise you > > robbie williams – let me entertain you > > the strokes – last night > > jimmy eat world – the middle > > blink 182 – all the small things > > sum 41 – fat lip > > no doubt – hey baby > > jamiroquai – soul education > > propellerheads – velvet pants > > green day – hitchin a
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The chicken dance does *not* equal "white trash." It’s a German tradition performed at many Oktoberfest parties and often many other kinds of parties. Nothing wrong with people wanting to incorporate their heritage, and it doesn’t make them white trash or less "classy." L. 5.18.02 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > hahahahhaa…. youll have to forgive me from laughing, but i’d much prefer > one song off my list from any of the cheesy, mundane, overplayed, bad songs > on your list. there is NO F*CKING WAY i would ever play the chicken dance > at my wedding. i have class. maybe you only work for white trash??? > smashmouth is the only remake thats on our list, and i do agree with you – > it is a shitty rendition and really doesnt do the original justice. > however, it is one that everyone will recognize. there are going to be a > lot of kids there (i have about 60 younger cousins), and theyre going to > recognize that version before they could even tell you who the monkees are > (were). > i’m with you on the beastie boys, thats for sure! wild and crazy music is > great. but not at a cocktail party. we want stuff everyone can (and will) > dance to, yet still be able to ignore if they want to chat. somehow joan > jett just doesn’t set that mood. > so because you’ve never had some of these artists (badly drawn boy, nick > cave, einsturzende neubauten) on your list means they don’t exist? that > they’re unsuitable? that they make bad music?? thats a narrow minded view > if ive ever heard one. > latin music does have a passion many of todays american artists lack. > however, there are plenty of good artists out there (see my list) who make > serious music, or who instead don’t at all take themselves seriously (blink > 182, sum 41, etc) who are only about having fun – and that’s what i plan on > doing at my wedding. > and again, it all goes back to the music *we* like. i don’t want 3 hours of > old, overplayed, oft-ignored, and unappealing music. and that’s that. > oh and REAL djs make their own music…. they don’t switch out cds.
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Feel free to send me updates. Aside from some of the song lists not covering newer music, what else is "out of date"? > hmm quite elaborate > very outdated however. > Check out the weddings section of part 3 of my DJ Tips guide at > http://www.dancemasters.net/public/djguide3.htm#_Toc512391650
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hahahahhaa…. youll have to forgive me from laughing, but i’d much prefer one song off my list from any of the cheesy, mundane, overplayed, bad songs on your list. there is NO F*CKING WAY i would ever play the chicken dance at my wedding. i have class. maybe you only work for white trash??? smashmouth is the only remake thats on our list, and i do agree with you – it is a shitty rendition and really doesnt do the original justice. however, it is one that everyone will recognize. there are going to be a lot of kids there (i have about 60 younger cousins), and theyre going to recognize that version before they could even tell you who the monkees are (were). i’m with you on the beastie boys, thats for sure! wild and crazy music is great. but not at a cocktail party. we want stuff everyone can (and will) dance to, yet still be able to ignore if they want to chat. somehow joan jett just doesn’t set that mood. so because you’ve never had some of these artists (badly drawn boy, nick cave, einsturzende neubauten) on your list means they don’t exist? that they’re unsuitable? that they make bad music?? thats a narrow minded view if ive ever heard one. latin music does have a passion many of todays american artists lack. however, there are plenty of good artists out there (see my list) who make serious music, or who instead don’t at all take themselves seriously (blink 182, sum 41, etc) who are only about having fun – and that’s what i plan on doing at my wedding. and again, it all goes back to the music *we* like. i don’t want 3 hours of old, overplayed, oft-ignored, and unappealing music. and that’s that. oh and REAL djs make their own music…. they don’t switch out cds.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jen: lets > face it most of these songs are NOT for dancing. > So you are right you would not hire me and I would NOT want you for a client > either. > I am a New York City Kick ass rock and Roll DJ, my job is to make people dance a may be > raunchy but not cheesy, I don’t get out there and do the electric slide or the > chicken dance …nope I try at all costs not to play them, > But you are right it is your day, and if you have the people who appreciate > Green Day’s Smashmouths, or Blink 182, Krappy remakes of GREAT > SUCK! And would rather hear the Monkees "I’m a Believer" any day of the > week! > So these people nick cave, badly drwn boy are never in any play list i ever > had, Gimme ZZ TOP Joan Jett, Gimme Kurtis Blow "the Breaks" gimme Run > DMC, "Rockbox" gimme wild and crazy music Playing animal houses "Shout" > into "No Sleep till Brooklyn" Beastie boys! > Gimme latin music, and now my personal fav is Cajun Zydeco music from > Louisiana, REAL people singing, REAL instruments Real guitars and drums, REAL > SOUL, not MOBY’s of lack of soul. > You see i am a REAL DJ > DJ > because i won’t pay someone to do a job i can do myself. :) > i’ve responded to each of your comments. see below. > > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car > but > > NOT a ta wedding. > for some weddings sure. but, this is our day, so it gets to be everything > *we* want it to be. we’re having an informal cocktail & hor d’ouerve > reception, NO DINNER, and we want to promote dancing. so we picked current > popular songs *we* like. > > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not > play > > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed > me > > when im 64! perfect. > you just gave away your trick. ;p no dj has any trick that a) i can’t > think of, or b) i am guaranteed to like. we’re having a relatively > unconventional wedding, and we hate ALL things cheesy (and djs tend to be > quite cheesy at weddings, like this suggestion you made). they’ll be no > tricks . . . this is our show. > > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > see what i mean by cheesy?? thats the kind of suggestion that would make me > NOT hire a dj. PLUS we’re not throwing the garter because honestly, thats a > little dirty. > > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > after the slow songs, we’re actually gonna break the ice with smashmouth’s > rendition of "i’ a believer" (featured in shrek). it’s a song everyone > (even the kids, because of shrek) will recognize. its a funny happy bouncy > song about love. > > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead > of > > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > um, what? wanna rephrase that in english? we’ll probably have song elvis, > as my fiancee is a fan. last dance reggae is your decision. and again, > cheesy. > > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > no dinner. no dinner music. and i despise enya. > > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > they’re musicians. they’re from england. they have incredible popularity > in the states. nick cave has been making records since the early 80s. it > saddens me to see someone call themself a dj yet have such a limited musical > scope. AND yet another reason to NOT hire a dj like you. no offense, i’m > just extremely particular about my music, the artists, and if someone is > going to be handling music for me they better know it well. > > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt > this is > > a Great GIRL song! > we have that no doubt song in our list actually. i’m not a fan of shakira: > i don’t like sellouts (her older stuff was much better but alas, you > sellout, you’re off my list). > > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move > it" > again with the cheesy! i hate that crap haha. again, this is MY wedding, i > don’t want to hear songs i DON’T like. > > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good > choices > the 80s should stay in the 80s where they belong. some of the music is > good, some of it i like, but theres about 200 songs in front of them. > how about 3-4 hours worth of different songs?! > that all being said, below is our current song list. we have yet to listen > to the songs together and make sure they segway into each other well enough, > and that we want them for sure…and i keep thinking of more to add (soon > we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). > badly drawn boy – The Shining (this is the song we’ll be dancing to……its > the song about love on the album we fell in love listening to) > nick cave – No more shall we part > fleming & john – Love Songs > smashmouth – I’m a believer > ani difranco – Ain’t that the Way. > percy faith – Theme for young lovers > dean martin – Aint that a kick in the head > sade – Lovers rock > leonard cohen – im your man > badly drwan bpy – Disillusion > einsturzende neubauten – Stella Maris > oasis – fuckin in the bushes > moby – bodyrock > outkast – whole world > young mc – bust a move > jamiroquai – canned heat > cake – Short Skirt Long Jacket > weezer – island in the sun > bob mould – a good idea > blink 182 – 8675309 (jenny) [cover] > cornershop – brimful of asha > sinatra – if you are but a dream > sade – by your side > leonard cohen – hallelujah > madonna – dj put a record on > kylie minogue – cant get you out of my head > fatboy slim – praise you > robbie williams – let me entertain you > the strokes – last night > jimmy eat world – the middle > blink 182 – all the small things > sum 41 – fat lip > no doubt – hey baby > jamiroquai – soul education > propellerheads – velvet pants > green day – hitchin a ride > > JeN: > > This is why its best to pay the $500-700 for a Professional DJ. > > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car > but > > NOT a ta wedding. > > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not > play > > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed > me > > when im 64! perfect. > > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead > of > > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India
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JeN: This is why its best to pay the $500-700 for a Professional DJ. Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car but NOT a ta wedding. Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not play "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed me when im 64! perfect. Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a merengue and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding song, and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead of "last dance" more reggae flavor. Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt this is a Great GIRL song! Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move it" Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good choices Keep the OLD people away from the speakers!!!!! make sure they ae way in the back of way off to the sides, nothing ruins a wedding more the aunt mary complaining about how loud the music is during dinner!!!! That’s a start Dj – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > the wedding hasn’t happened yet – it’s june 1st. :) however, we chose a > wide range of music everyone should enjoy as well as be familiar with. we > stuck to more popular songs for the dance songs as well as the slow songs > (outkast, blink 182, sum 41, kylie minogue, no doubt, weezer, sade, etc), > threw in a few classics (frank sinatra, louis armstrong, etc), then chose > some of our own (nick cave & the bad seeds, badly drawn boy, einsturzende > neubauten, etc). we’ve got a good mix, 99% of it you’d hear on the radio on > any given day (on the rock and mix stations), so everyone should be able to > recognize most of the songs. the ones 99% of the guests won’t, we slipped > in to spots where they’ll be having so much fun they won’t even notice. ;) > did your guests agree with your type of music? > many Bride and Grooms come to me and say > I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC > or something like that, but the guests hate country or > want to hear some Rock N Roll, > niki, > > definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, they > > definitely want included. that can help set the mood for the rest of > the > > music as well. > > my fiancee and i picked all our music . . . we both have extremely broad > > musical tastes so wanted to be sure that everything we like and wanted > > included, was. we have nearly 4 hours of music . . . and this is just > for > a > > late afternoon cocktail/hor d’ouerve reception! :p we didn’t want to > have > > to spend the majority of the reception requesting songs . . . it is our > day > > after all! > > > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > > > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > > > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > > > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > > > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > > > the help I can get. > > > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > > > this group, > > > thanks for any input, etc, > > > john
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> Keep the OLD people away from the speakers!!!!! make sure they ae way in the > back of way off to the sides, nothing ruins a wedding more the aunt mary > complaining about how loud the music is during dinner!!!!
Maybe it might be a good idea to find out what sound level the HC might like. More than one HC might like to converse with their guests throughout the whole reception. I can’t tell you how many dances I’ve been at where the band members ask, "Hoe did you like the music?" only to be told that if the volume were cut in half, it would have been much better. Then again, I happen to like *acoustic*, non-amplified music. — aMAZon "It’s never too late to have a happy childhood."
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Jen: face it most of these songs are NOT for dancing. So you are right you would not hire me and I would NOT want you for a client either. I am a New York City Kick ass rock and Roll DJ, my job is to make people dance a raunchy but not cheesy, I don’t get out there and do the electric slide or the chicken dance …nope I try at all costs not to play them, But you are right it is your day, and if you have the people who appreciate Green Day’s Smashmouths, or Blink 182, Krappy remakes of GREAT SUCK! And would rather hear the Monkees "I’m a Believer" any day of the week! So these people nick cave, badly drwn boy are never in any play list i ever had, Gimme ZZ TOP Joan Jett, Gimme Kurtis Blow "the Breaks" gimme Run DMC, "Rockbox" gimme wild and crazy music Playing animal houses "Shout" into "No Sleep till Brooklyn" Beastie boys! Gimme latin music, and now my personal fav is Cajun Zydeco music from Louisiana, REAL people singing, REAL instruments Real guitars and drums, REAL SOUL, not MOBY’s of lack of soul. You see i am a REAL DJ DJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > because i won’t pay someone to do a job i can do myself. :) > i’ve responded to each of your comments. see below. > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car > but > NOT a ta wedding. > for some weddings sure. but, this is our day, so it gets to be everything > *we* want it to be. we’re having an informal cocktail & hor d’ouerve > reception, NO DINNER, and we want to promote dancing. so we picked current > popular songs *we* like. > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not > play > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed > me > when im 64! perfect. > you just gave away your trick. ;p no dj has any trick that a) i can’t > think of, or b) i am guaranteed to like. we’re having a relatively > unconventional wedding, and we hate ALL things cheesy (and djs tend to be > quite cheesy at weddings, like this suggestion you made). they’ll be no > tricks . . . this is our show. > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > see what i mean by cheesy?? thats the kind of suggestion that would make me > NOT hire a dj. PLUS we’re not throwing the garter because honestly, thats a > little dirty. > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > after the slow songs, we’re actually gonna break the ice with smashmouth’s > rendition of "i’ a believer" (featured in shrek). it’s a song everyone > (even the kids, because of shrek) will recognize. its a funny happy bouncy > song about love. > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead > of > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > um, what? wanna rephrase that in english? we’ll probably have song elvis, > as my fiancee is a fan. last dance reggae is your decision. and again, > cheesy. > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > no dinner. no dinner music. and i despise enya. > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > they’re musicians. they’re from england. they have incredible popularity > in the states. nick cave has been making records since the early 80s. it > saddens me to see someone call themself a dj yet have such a limited musical > scope. AND yet another reason to NOT hire a dj like you. no offense, i’m > just extremely particular about my music, the artists, and if someone is > going to be handling music for me they better know it well. > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt > this is > a Great GIRL song! > we have that no doubt song in our list actually. i’m not a fan of shakira: > i don’t like sellouts (her older stuff was much better but alas, you > sellout, you’re off my list). > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move > it" > again with the cheesy! i hate that crap haha. again, this is MY wedding, i > don’t want to hear songs i DON’T like. > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good > choices > the 80s should stay in the 80s where they belong. some of the music is > good, some of it i like, but theres about 200 songs in front of them. > how about 3-4 hours worth of different songs?! > that all being said, below is our current song list. we have yet to listen > to the songs together and make sure they segway into each other well enough, > and that we want them for sure…and i keep thinking of more to add (soon > we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). :) > badly drawn boy – The Shining (this is the song we’ll be dancing to……its > the song about love on the album we fell in love listening to) > nick cave – No more shall we part > fleming & john – Love Songs > smashmouth – I’m a believer > ani difranco – Ain’t that the Way. > percy faith – Theme for young lovers > dean martin – Aint that a kick in the head > sade – Lovers rock > leonard cohen – im your man > badly drwan bpy – Disillusion > einsturzende neubauten – Stella Maris > oasis – fuckin in the bushes > moby – bodyrock > outkast – whole world > young mc – bust a move > jamiroquai – canned heat > cake – Short Skirt Long Jacket > weezer – island in the sun > bob mould – a good idea > blink 182 – 8675309 (jenny) [cover] > cornershop – brimful of asha > sinatra – if you are but a dream > sade – by your side > leonard cohen – hallelujah > madonna – dj put a record on > kylie minogue – cant get you out of my head > fatboy slim – praise you > robbie williams – let me entertain you > the strokes – last night > jimmy eat world – the middle > blink 182 – all the small things > sum 41 – fat lip > no doubt – hey baby > jamiroquai – soul education > propellerheads – velvet pants > green day – hitchin a ride > JeN: > This is why its best to pay the $500-700 for a Professional DJ. > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car > but > NOT a ta wedding. > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not > play > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed > me > when im 64! perfect. > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead > of > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt > this is > a Great GIRL song! > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move > it" > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good > choices > Keep the OLD people away from the speakers!!!!! make sure they ae way in > the > back of way off to the sides, nothing ruins a wedding more the aunt mary > complaining about how loud the music is during dinner!!!! > That’s a start > Dj > > the wedding hasn’t happened yet – it’s june 1st. :) however, we chose > a > > wide range of music everyone should enjoy as well as be familiar with. > we > > stuck to more popular songs for the dance songs as well as the slow > songs > > (outkast, blink 182, sum 41, kylie minogue, no doubt, weezer, sade, > etc), > > threw in a few classics (frank sinatra, louis armstrong, etc), then > chose > > some of our own (nick cave & the bad seeds, badly drawn boy, > einsturzende > > neubauten, etc). we’ve got a good mix, 99% of it you’d hear on the > radio on > > any given day (on the rock and mix stations), so everyone should be able > to > > recognize most of the songs. the ones 99% of the guests won’t, we > slipped > > in to spots where they’ll be having so much fun they won’t even notice. > > > > did your guests agree with your type of music? > > > many Bride and Grooms come to me and say > > > I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC > > > or something like that, but the guests hate country or > > > want to hear some Rock N Roll, > > > niki, > > > > definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, > they > > > > definitely want included.
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haha luckily there’s no dj, so no one to bug! :p there’s no time limit on the reception either . . . we’re having it in my parents backyard (they have an acre, with grapevines, flower beds, and a pond…so it’ll be gorgeous) so it’s kind of till the last man is standing – or we kick them out! ;)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> soon we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). > > I hate when clients give me 8 hrs of requests for a three hour party. You > are wasting your time and mine. For a 3 hr wedding you should pick 60 songs > maximum. I agree that the couple should pick all the music if they want to. > After all its your wedding and youre paying. > DJ Steve > because i won’t pay someone to do a job i can do myself. :) > i’ve responded to each of your comments. see below. > > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the > car > but > > NOT a ta wedding. > for some weddings sure. but, this is our day, so it gets to be everything > *we* want it to be. we’re having an informal cocktail & hor d’ouerve > reception, NO DINNER, and we want to promote dancing. so we picked > current > popular songs *we* like. > > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why > not > play > > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still > feed > me > > when im 64! perfect. > you just gave away your trick. ;p no dj has any trick that a) i can’t > think of, or b) i am guaranteed to like. we’re having a relatively > unconventional wedding, and we hate ALL things cheesy (and djs tend to be > quite cheesy at weddings, like this suggestion you made). they’ll be no > tricks . . . this is our show. > > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > see what i mean by cheesy?? thats the kind of suggestion that would make > me > NOT hire a dj. PLUS we’re not throwing the garter because honestly, thats > a > little dirty. > > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > after the slow songs, we’re actually gonna break the ice with smashmouth’s > rendition of "i’ a believer" (featured in shrek). it’s a song everyone > (even the kids, because of shrek) will recognize. its a funny happy > bouncy > song about love. > > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless > its > > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night > instead > of > > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > um, what? wanna rephrase that in english? we’ll probably have song > elvis, > as my fiancee is a fan. last dance reggae is your decision. and again, > cheesy. > > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > no dinner. no dinner music. and i despise enya. > > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > they’re musicians. they’re from england. they have incredible popularity > in the states. nick cave has been making records since the early 80s. it > saddens me to see someone call themself a dj yet have such a limited > musical > scope. AND yet another reason to NOT hire a dj like you. no offense, i’m > just extremely particular about my music, the artists, and if someone is > going to be handling music for me they better know it well. > > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt > this is > > a Great GIRL song! > we have that no doubt song in our list actually. i’m not a fan of > shakira: > i don’t like sellouts (her older stuff was much better but alas, you > sellout, you’re off my list). > > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move > it" > again with the cheesy! i hate that crap haha. again, this is MY wedding, > i > don’t want to hear songs i DON’T like. > > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good > choices > the 80s should stay in the 80s where they belong. some of the music is > good, some of it i like, but theres about 200 songs in front of them. > how about 3-4 hours worth of different songs?! > that all being said, below is our current song list. we have yet to > listen > to the songs together and make sure they segway into each other well > enough, > and that we want them for sure…and i keep thinking of more to add (soon > we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). > badly drawn boy – The Shining (this is the song we’ll be dancing > to……its > the song about love on the album we fell in love listening to) > nick cave – No more shall we part > fleming & john – Love Songs > smashmouth – I’m a believer > ani difranco – Ain’t that the Way. > percy faith – Theme for young lovers > dean martin – Aint that a kick in the head > sade – Lovers rock > leonard cohen – im your man > badly drwan bpy – Disillusion > einsturzende neubauten – Stella Maris > oasis – fuckin in the bushes > moby – bodyrock > outkast – whole world > young mc – bust a move > jamiroquai – canned heat > cake – Short Skirt Long Jacket > weezer – island in the sun > bob mould – a good idea > blink 182 – 8675309 (jenny) [cover] > cornershop – brimful of asha > sinatra – if you are but a dream > sade – by your side > leonard cohen – hallelujah > madonna – dj put a record on > kylie minogue – cant get you out of my head > fatboy slim – praise you > robbie williams – let me entertain you > the strokes – last night > jimmy eat world – the middle > blink 182 – all the small things > sum 41 – fat lip > no doubt – hey baby > jamiroquai – soul education > propellerheads – velvet pants > green day – hitchin a ride > > JeN: > > This is why its best to pay the $500-700 for a Professional DJ. > > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the > car > but > > NOT a ta wedding. > > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why > not > play > > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still > feed > me > > when im 64! perfect. > > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless > its > > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night > instead > of > > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt > this is > > a Great GIRL song! > > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move > it" > > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good > choices > > Keep the OLD people away from the speakers!!!!! make sure they ae way > in > the > > back of way off to the sides, nothing ruins a wedding more the aunt > mary > > complaining about how loud the music is during dinner!!!! > > That’s a start > > Dj > > > the wedding hasn’t happened yet – it’s june 1st. :) however, we > chose > a > > > wide range of music everyone should enjoy as well as be familiar with. > we > > > stuck to more popular songs for the dance songs as well as the slow > songs > > > (outkast, blink 182, sum 41, kylie minogue, no doubt, weezer, sade, > etc), > > > threw in a few classics (frank sinatra, louis armstrong, etc), then > chose > > > some of our own (nick cave & the bad seeds, badly drawn boy, > einsturzende > > > neubauten, etc). we’ve got a good mix, 99% of it you’d hear on the > radio on > > > any given day (on the rock and mix stations), so everyone should be > able > to > > > recognize most of the songs. the ones 99% of the guests won’t, we > slipped > > > in to spots where they’ll be having so much fun they won’t even > notice. > > > > > did your guests agree with your type of music? > > > > many Bride and Grooms come to me and say > > > > I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC > > > > or something like that, but the guests hate country or > > > > want to hear some Rock N Roll, > > > > niki, > > > > > definitely
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soon we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). I hate when clients give me 8 hrs of requests for a three hour party. You are wasting your time and mine. For a 3 hr wedding you should pick 60 songs maximum. I agree that the couple should pick all the music if they want to. After all its your wedding and youre paying. DJ Steve
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> because i won’t pay someone to do a job i can do myself. :) > i’ve responded to each of your comments. see below. > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car > but > NOT a ta wedding. > for some weddings sure. but, this is our day, so it gets to be everything > *we* want it to be. we’re having an informal cocktail & hor d’ouerve > reception, NO DINNER, and we want to promote dancing. so we picked current > popular songs *we* like. > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not > play > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed > me > when im 64! perfect. > you just gave away your trick. ;p no dj has any trick that a) i can’t > think of, or b) i am guaranteed to like. we’re having a relatively > unconventional wedding, and we hate ALL things cheesy (and djs tend to be > quite cheesy at weddings, like this suggestion you made). they’ll be no > tricks . . . this is our show. > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > see what i mean by cheesy?? thats the kind of suggestion that would make me > NOT hire a dj. PLUS we’re not throwing the garter because honestly, thats a > little dirty. > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > after the slow songs, we’re actually gonna break the ice with smashmouth’s > rendition of "i’ a believer" (featured in shrek). it’s a song everyone > (even the kids, because of shrek) will recognize. its a funny happy bouncy > song about love. > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead > of > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > um, what? wanna rephrase that in english? we’ll probably have song elvis, > as my fiancee is a fan. last dance reggae is your decision. and again, > cheesy. > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > no dinner. no dinner music. and i despise enya. > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > they’re musicians. they’re from england. they have incredible popularity > in the states. nick cave has been making records since the early 80s. it > saddens me to see someone call themself a dj yet have such a limited musical > scope. AND yet another reason to NOT hire a dj like you. no offense, i’m > just extremely particular about my music, the artists, and if someone is > going to be handling music for me they better know it well. > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt > this is > a Great GIRL song! > we have that no doubt song in our list actually. i’m not a fan of shakira: > i don’t like sellouts (her older stuff was much better but alas, you > sellout, you’re off my list). > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move > it" > again with the cheesy! i hate that crap haha. again, this is MY wedding, i > don’t want to hear songs i DON’T like. > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good > choices > the 80s should stay in the 80s where they belong. some of the music is > good, some of it i like, but theres about 200 songs in front of them. > how about 3-4 hours worth of different songs?! > that all being said, below is our current song list. we have yet to listen > to the songs together and make sure they segway into each other well enough, > and that we want them for sure…and i keep thinking of more to add (soon > we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). :) > badly drawn boy – The Shining (this is the song we’ll be dancing to……its > the song about love on the album we fell in love listening to) > nick cave – No more shall we part > fleming & john – Love Songs > smashmouth – I’m a believer > ani difranco – Ain’t that the Way. > percy faith – Theme for young lovers > dean martin – Aint that a kick in the head > sade – Lovers rock > leonard cohen – im your man > badly drwan bpy – Disillusion > einsturzende neubauten – Stella Maris > oasis – fuckin in the bushes > moby – bodyrock > outkast – whole world > young mc – bust a move > jamiroquai – canned heat > cake – Short Skirt Long Jacket > weezer – island in the sun > bob mould – a good idea > blink 182 – 8675309 (jenny) [cover] > cornershop – brimful of asha > sinatra – if you are but a dream > sade – by your side > leonard cohen – hallelujah > madonna – dj put a record on > kylie minogue – cant get you out of my head > fatboy slim – praise you > robbie williams – let me entertain you > the strokes – last night > jimmy eat world – the middle > blink 182 – all the small things > sum 41 – fat lip > no doubt – hey baby > jamiroquai – soul education > propellerheads – velvet pants > green day – hitchin a ride > JeN: > This is why its best to pay the $500-700 for a Professional DJ. > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car > but > NOT a ta wedding. > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not > play > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed > me > when im 64! perfect. > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a > merengue > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding > song, > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead > of > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt > this is > a Great GIRL song! > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move > it" > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good > choices > Keep the OLD people away from the speakers!!!!! make sure they ae way in > the > back of way off to the sides, nothing ruins a wedding more the aunt mary > complaining about how loud the music is during dinner!!!! > That’s a start > Dj > > the wedding hasn’t happened yet – it’s june 1st. :) however, we chose > a > > wide range of music everyone should enjoy as well as be familiar with. > we > > stuck to more popular songs for the dance songs as well as the slow > songs > > (outkast, blink 182, sum 41, kylie minogue, no doubt, weezer, sade, > etc), > > threw in a few classics (frank sinatra, louis armstrong, etc), then > chose > > some of our own (nick cave & the bad seeds, badly drawn boy, > einsturzende > > neubauten, etc). we’ve got a good mix, 99% of it you’d hear on the > radio on > > any given day (on the rock and mix stations), so everyone should be able > to > > recognize most of the songs. the ones 99% of the guests won’t, we > slipped > > in to spots where they’ll be having so much fun they won’t even notice. > > > > did your guests agree with your type of music? > > > many Bride and Grooms come to me and say > > > I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC > > > or something like that, but the guests hate country or > > > want to hear some Rock N Roll, > > > niki, > > > > definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, > they > > > > definitely want included. that can help set the mood for the rest > of > > the > > > > music as well. > > > > my fiancee and i picked all our music . . . we both have extremely > broad > > > > musical tastes so wanted to be sure that everything we like and > wanted > > > > included, was. we have nearly 4 hours of music . . . and this is > just > > for > > > a > > > > late afternoon cocktail/hor d’ouerve reception! :p we didn’t want > to > > > have > > > > to spend the majority of the reception requesting songs . . . it is > our > > > day > > > > after all! > > > > > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request > winter > > > > > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing > in > > > > > some
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because i won’t pay someone to do a job i can do myself. :) i’ve responded to each of your comments. see below. > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car but > NOT a ta wedding.
for some weddings sure. but, this is our day, so it gets to be everything *we* want it to be. we’re having an informal cocktail & hor d’ouerve reception, NO DINNER, and we want to promote dancing. so we picked current popular songs *we* like. > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not play > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed me > when im 64! perfect.
you just gave away your trick. ;p no dj has any trick that a) i can’t think of, or b) i am guaranteed to like. we’re having a relatively unconventional wedding, and we hate ALL things cheesy (and djs tend to be quite cheesy at weddings, like this suggestion you made). they’ll be no tricks . . . this is our show. > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is
see what i mean by cheesy?? thats the kind of suggestion that would make me NOT hire a dj. PLUS we’re not throwing the garter because honestly, thats a little dirty. > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a merengue > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna.
after the slow songs, we’re actually gonna break the ice with smashmouth’s rendition of "i’ a believer" (featured in shrek). it’s a song everyone (even the kids, because of shrek) will recognize. its a funny happy bouncy song about love. > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding song, > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead of > "last dance" more reggae flavor.
um, what? wanna rephrase that in english? we’ll probably have song elvis, as my fiancee is a fan. last dance reggae is your decision. and again, cheesy. > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music.
no dinner. no dinner music. and i despise enya. > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy?
they’re musicians. they’re from england. they have incredible popularity in the states. nick cave has been making records since the early 80s. it saddens me to see someone call themself a dj yet have such a limited musical scope. AND yet another reason to NOT hire a dj like you. no offense, i’m just extremely particular about my music, the artists, and if someone is going to be handling music for me they better know it well. > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt this is > a Great GIRL song!
we have that no doubt song in our list actually. i’m not a fan of shakira: i don’t like sellouts (her older stuff was much better but alas, you sellout, you’re off my list). > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move
it" again with the cheesy! i hate that crap haha. again, this is MY wedding, i don’t want to hear songs i DON’T like. > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good
choices the 80s should stay in the 80s where they belong. some of the music is good, some of it i like, but theres about 200 songs in front of them.
how about 3-4 hours worth of different songs?! that all being said, below is our current song list. we have yet to listen to the songs together and make sure they segway into each other well enough, and that we want them for sure…and i keep thinking of more to add (soon we’ll have 8 hours of music for a 3 hours shindig but c’est la vie!). :) badly drawn boy – The Shining (this is the song we’ll be dancing to……its the song about love on the album we fell in love listening to) nick cave – No more shall we part fleming & john – Love Songs smashmouth – I’m a believer ani difranco – Ain’t that the Way. percy faith – Theme for young lovers dean martin – Aint that a kick in the head sade – Lovers rock leonard cohen – im your man badly drwan bpy – Disillusion einsturzende neubauten – Stella Maris oasis – fuckin in the bushes moby – bodyrock outkast – whole world young mc – bust a move jamiroquai – canned heat cake – Short Skirt Long Jacket weezer – island in the sun bob mould – a good idea blink 182 – 8675309 (jenny) [cover] cornershop – brimful of asha sinatra – if you are but a dream sade – by your side leonard cohen – hallelujah madonna – dj put a record on kylie minogue – cant get you out of my head fatboy slim – praise you robbie williams – let me entertain you the strokes – last night jimmy eat world – the middle blink 182 – all the small things sum 41 – fat lip no doubt – hey baby jamiroquai – soul education propellerheads – velvet pants green day – hitchin a ride
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> JeN: > This is why its best to pay the $500-700 for a Professional DJ. > Just because the B&G like the music it may be good at home and in the car but > NOT a ta wedding. > Also DJ’s have special tricks and songs to enhance the wedding, Why not play > "when I’m 64 " by the Beatles for the cake cutting? will you still feed me > when im 64! perfect. > Or taking of the garter sometimes… i play whoop there is is > Or any modern latin music? If you have some latin people there play a merengue > and break the ice with that first rather then with Madonna. > And the classics ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS……and not Costello!!!! Unless its > "Everyday I write the book" nice reggae flavor and an excellent wedding song, > and Blondie’s "The Tide Is high" maybe the last song of the night instead of > "last dance" more reggae flavor. > Sade, Enya is great for dinner music. > Who is this nick cave? badly drawn boy? > What about Shakira? or "Video" by India Arie/ or "Hey baby" No doubt this is > a Great GIRL song! > Or some dance hall stuff like the Real to Real "I live to move it, move it" > Not to mention that 80’s new wave is BACK, so New Order "Bizarre love > triangle" Devo "whip it" and the Clash "Rock the casbah" would be good choices > Keep the OLD people away from the speakers!!!!! make sure they ae way in the > back of way off to the sides, nothing ruins a wedding more the aunt mary > complaining about how loud the music is during dinner!!!! > That’s a start > Dj > the wedding hasn’t happened yet – it’s june 1st. :) however, we chose a > wide range of music everyone should enjoy as well as be familiar with. we > stuck to more popular songs for the dance songs as well as the slow songs > (outkast, blink 182, sum 41, kylie minogue, no doubt, weezer, sade, etc), > threw in a few classics (frank sinatra, louis armstrong, etc), then chose > some of our own (nick cave & the bad seeds, badly drawn boy, einsturzende > neubauten, etc). we’ve got a good mix, 99% of it you’d hear on the radio on > any given day (on the rock and mix stations), so everyone should be able to > recognize most of the songs. the ones 99% of the guests won’t, we slipped > in to spots where they’ll be having so much fun they won’t even notice. > > did your guests agree with your type of music? > > many Bride and Grooms come to me and say > > I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC > > or something like that, but the guests hate country or > > want to hear some Rock N Roll, > > niki, > > > definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, they > > > definitely want included. that can help set the mood for the rest of > the > > > music as well. > > > my fiancee and i picked all our music . . . we both have extremely broad > > > musical tastes so wanted to be sure that everything we like and wanted > > > included, was. we have nearly 4 hours of music . . . and this is just > for > > a > > > late afternoon cocktail/hor d’ouerve reception! :p we didn’t want to > > have > > > to spend the majority of the reception requesting songs . . . it is our > > day > > > after all! > > > > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > > > > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > > > > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > > > > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > > > > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > > > > the help I can get. > > > > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > > > > this group, > > > > thanks for any input, etc, > > > > john
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also at the end your minimum of two pple is not quite well thought out. Ive been a "wedding Dj" for 5 years now and being a DJ is my only job, I do weddings by myself, lug the soundsystem, set it up do the MC’ing, and DJ,. People know who is running the soundsystem at all times, I know right away who asked for what song. I enjoy doing this by myself. And actually get stressed when another Dj or another MC is arround, there are too many issues of "mixed messages" for me to feel comfortable. so you might want to reconsidder that. Niki,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Check out the weddings section of part 3 of my DJ Tips guide at > http://www.dancemasters.net/public/djguide3.htm#_Toc512391650 > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > the help I can get. > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > this group, > thanks for any input, etc, > john > Steve and Roberta Rothkin > Dancemasters Disc Jockey Entertainers, LLC–WE MAKE YOUR PARTY FUN! > 22A Hawkes Close, Ossining, NY 10562 > Voice: (914)762-4565 Toll-free (866)FUN-DJMC Fax: (914)762-4566 > Proud member of the American Disc Jockey Association
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definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, they definitely want included. that can help set the mood for the rest of the music as well. my fiancee and i picked all our music . . . we both have extremely broad musical tastes so wanted to be sure that everything we like and wanted included, was. we have nearly 4 hours of music . . . and this is just for a late afternoon cocktail/hor d’ouerve reception! :p we didn’t want to have to spend the majority of the reception requesting songs . . . it is our day after all!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > the help I can get. > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > this group, > thanks for any input, etc, > john
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did your guests agree with your type of music? many Bride and Grooms come to me and say I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC or something like that, but the guests hate country or want to hear some Rock N Roll, niki,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, they > definitely want included. that can help set the mood for the rest of the > music as well. > my fiancee and i picked all our music . . . we both have extremely broad > musical tastes so wanted to be sure that everything we like and wanted > included, was. we have nearly 4 hours of music . . . and this is just for a > late afternoon cocktail/hor d’ouerve reception! :p we didn’t want to have > to spend the majority of the reception requesting songs . . . it is our day > after all! > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > the help I can get. > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > this group, > thanks for any input, etc, > john
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the wedding hasn’t happened yet – it’s june 1st. :) however, we chose a wide range of music everyone should enjoy as well as be familiar with. we stuck to more popular songs for the dance songs as well as the slow songs (outkast, blink 182, sum 41, kylie minogue, no doubt, weezer, sade, etc), threw in a few classics (frank sinatra, louis armstrong, etc), then chose some of our own (nick cave & the bad seeds, badly drawn boy, einsturzende neubauten, etc). we’ve got a good mix, 99% of it you’d hear on the radio on any given day (on the rock and mix stations), so everyone should be able to recognize most of the songs. the ones 99% of the guests won’t, we slipped in to spots where they’ll be having so much fun they won’t even notice. ;)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> did your guests agree with your type of music? > many Bride and Grooms come to me and say > I JUST WANT COUNTRY MUSIC > or something like that, but the guests hate country or > want to hear some Rock N Roll, > niki, > definitely find out from the bride and groom what songs, if any, they > definitely want included. that can help set the mood for the rest of the > music as well. > my fiancee and i picked all our music . . . we both have extremely broad > musical tastes so wanted to be sure that everything we like and wanted > included, was. we have nearly 4 hours of music . . . and this is just for > a > late afternoon cocktail/hor d’ouerve reception! :p we didn’t want to > have > to spend the majority of the reception requesting songs . . . it is our > day > after all! > > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > > the help I can get. > > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > > this group, > > thanks for any input, etc, > > john
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What’s a Garter Dance? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > the help I can get. > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > this group, > thanks for any input, etc, > john
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hmm its all in the way you say it and when you say it. you got to have a feel for the right moment. At the weddings that I DJ, I usually have the bride and groom go through all the "formals" in the beginning after dinner. this way its easier to announce all the "formals" and have them go smooth into eachother. reason being : many guests leave soon after dinner and you dont want them to miss out on those things, – Even if the bride and groom think before the wedding about spreading things out, usually on the day itself they are so stressed or exhausted that they just wish to have a good time and get all the formal stuff out of the road so they can relax and sometimes change attire (groom takes jacket and vest off bride removes veil etc) and it wouldnt look good on pictures. – Dj’s point of view : if you have people up and dancing its easy to interrupt the dancing for a "formal" but then its very tough to get them up and dancing again. Guests can watch all the formals while eating dessert/cake and if its all over in the beginning, they know things are done and can just relax and party aswell. ofcourse this is a "normal" wedding for me. and in all the years that ive been dj’ing i would say that 99% of the weddings ive done had all the formals in teh beginning (our whole company does this and we have an average of 3 weddings a week every week) and almost all of the B&G’s usually thank me for that format. if you need more info on how to word things just lemme know id be glad to help Niki,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > the help I can get. > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > this group, > thanks for any input, etc, > john
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Check out the weddings section of part 3 of my DJ Tips guide at http://www.dancemasters.net/public/djguide3.htm#_Toc512391650 > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > the help I can get. > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > this group, > thanks for any input, etc, > john
Steve and Roberta Rothkin Dancemasters Disc Jockey Entertainers, LLC–WE MAKE YOUR PARTY FUN! 22A Hawkes Close, Ossining, NY 10562 Voice: (914)762-4565 Toll-free (866)FUN-DJMC Fax: (914)762-4566 Proud member of the American Disc Jockey Association
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hmm quite elaborate very outdated however. Niki,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Check out the weddings section of part 3 of my DJ Tips guide at > http://www.dancemasters.net/public/djguide3.htm#_Toc512391650 > I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter > formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in > some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on > the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of > course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all > the help I can get. > emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read > this group, > thanks for any input, etc, > john > Steve and Roberta Rothkin > Dancemasters Disc Jockey Entertainers, LLC–WE MAKE YOUR PARTY FUN! > 22A Hawkes Close, Ossining, NY 10562 > Voice: (914)762-4565 Toll-free (866)FUN-DJMC Fax: (914)762-4566 > Proud member of the American Disc Jockey Association
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I’ve made set lists for some parties & done one live request winter formal in the past, so I think I can handle the music by throwing in some songs for the older crowd too… but does anyone have any tips on the MC part? Like good ways to work in the garter dance, etc? I’m of course going to ask them what they want but I think I could use all the help I can get. emailed responses would be the most helpful as i don’t normally read this group, thanks for any input, etc, john
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Wasn’t it nikid who said… > however there is a difference between playing songs, and a being a DJ
Uh…I think that’s what I said. :-) — Joe Pucillo Baltimore, Maryland USA To reply by email, please remove the .xx from the address.
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lol yes it is but you made it soud as if the acutual party part (just dance music) is easy also and can be done by monkeys I am not a monkey now leave me alone so i can eat my banana LoL ;-P Niki somewhere in PA USA
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Wasn’t it nikid who said… > however there is a difference between playing songs, and a being a DJ > Uh…I think that’s what I said. :-) > — > Joe Pucillo > Baltimore, Maryland USA > To reply by email, please remove the .xx from the address.
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>lol yes it is but you made it soud as if >the acutual party part (just dance music) is easy also >and can be done by monkeys
It could. >I am not a monkey
Fooled me. Ron Ng Knows!
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>uhuh i disagree >lol >Since im a Wedding DJ myself i do agreee a great deal of attention >should be spent at the MC and announcements.
Are you this idiotic sounding in person? Ron Ng Knows!
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Can you give any input on dj’s? Is there an economical way any of you have had a DJ?…maybe a friend doing it themself? any bad experiences or lessons you learned form your DJ?
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Wasn’t it Dee and Sam who said… > any bad experiences or lessons you learned form your DJ?
Months (sometimes years) of planning on precisely what will happen at your wedding – then you turn the whole thing over to a crappy, cut-rate DJ. Nothing will anger you more. That’s being said considering most people hire their DJ to not only play records, but also be the ‘master of ceremonies’ at their reception. If that’s not the case, and if you’ve hired or otherwise arranged an MC, you can get anyone to play your CDs. A monkey can be trained to push the ‘play’ button, but no matter how much practice he gets, a monkey will *always* pronounce the matron of honor’s name wrong. — Joe Pucillo Baltimore, Maryland USA To reply by email, please remove the .xx from the address.
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uhuh i disagree lol Since im a Wedding DJ myself i do agreee a great deal of attention should be spent at the MC and announcements. however there is a difference between playing songs, and a being a DJ A GOOD dj will be trained to know what songs work together whats proper to play and knows how to read a crowd and to get your guest up and dancing. when I was trained to do weddings, i thought things would be easy however weddings are tougher then you think. Niki,
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Wasn’t it Dee and Sam who said… > any bad experiences or lessons you learned form your DJ? > Months (sometimes years) of planning on precisely what will happen > at your wedding – then you turn the whole thing over to a crappy, > cut-rate DJ. Nothing will anger you more. > That’s being said considering most people hire their DJ to not only > play records, but also be the ‘master of ceremonies’ at their > reception. If that’s not the case, and if you’ve hired or otherwise > arranged an MC, you can get anyone to play your CDs. > A monkey can be trained to push the ‘play’ button, but no matter how > much practice he gets, a monkey will *always* pronounce the matron > of honor’s name wrong. > — > Joe Pucillo > Baltimore, Maryland USA > To reply by email, please remove the .xx from the address.
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3000 songs? That’s all? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > We are Music Mania Mobile DJ, a Wedding Reception Music and DJ Service > working in the Northwest Missouri and Kansas areas. We specialize in > making your special day memorable with the right music. We have over > 3000 songs to choose from including lots of great oldies that folks > love to dance to. We are well experienced in wedding music and can > provide references. Email me if you have any questions concerning our > services or go to:
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My fiance and i are getting married on the 10th August next year and can’t wait. We are getting married in a hotel that have a marriage license, what is the normal music to have playing at the beginnning of the ceremony in a civil service? It doesnt seem right to have the traditional ‘Here comes the bride’ music, can anyone help me on this please? Thanx……Leanne
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Whilst licking their paws in alt.wedding on 05 Aug 2001, "Heather" > My fiance and i are getting married on the 10th August next year and > can’t wait. We are getting married in a hotel that have a marriage > license, what is the normal music to have playing at the beginnning of > the ceremony in a civil service? It doesnt seem right to have the > traditional ‘Here comes the bride’ music, can anyone help me on this > please?
We are getting married in a church and *still* didn’t want the traditional wedding march We are using Pachabel’s Canon in D by harp. — Vicki Cleaver Take the litter out to email me. http://robvickiengaged.cjb.net Engaged 05.12.2000 Wedding 27.10.2001 Passion brought us together now our love means we’ll never part.
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There is tons of music that you can use- in fact use whatever you want! Or check Amazon.com int he music section for some CDs with Wedding Music- both traditional and non traditional. (Like John Lennon.. ) JB – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My fiance and i are getting married on the 10th August next year and can’t > wait. We are getting married in a hotel that have a marriage license, what > is the normal music to have playing at the beginnning of the ceremony in a > civil service? It doesnt seem right to have the traditional ‘Here comes the > bride’ music, can anyone help me on this please? > Thanx……Leanne
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Yes, Pachabel’s Canon in D is a great idea…my sister played this when she got married, (In a wonderful little outdoor gazebo by the river) and it was such a beautiful and touching ceremony! -Victoria – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We are getting married in a church and *still* didn’t want the traditional > wedding march We are using Pachabel’s Canon in D by harp. > Vicki Cleaver
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> Hi Sue, > Why not have a Scottish Piper dressed in Full Highland outfit Pipe your > daughter down the Isle, it is certainly different from the norm if that is > what you are looking for. > www.scotiapipers.co.uk > Steven Dewar. > Scotia Pipers.
Hi Steven, I would dearly love to have something like that, unfortunately, it’s a little bit ‘pricey’ where I live (eg. Not in Scotland!) Cheers Sue
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>>For something a little on the unique side, we’re probably using >"All you need is Love" by the Beatles > We also went untraditional. We used > Tuck and Patti’s "Takes my Breath Away".
Yeah, another Tuck and Patti fan. We made a classical guitar cd for our prelude music, and it contained a few of Tuck Andress’ solo works. IF you ever get to see them live, do so! — Trisha Pena Webb www.shreddedheart.com/petsites/hairless.htm Owner of hypoallergenic Torgo and Bauer, Chinese Crested Hairless —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Hi Sue, Why not have a Scottish Piper dressed in Full Highland outfit Pipe your daughter down the Isle, it is certainly different from the norm if that is what you are looking for. www.scotiapipers.co.uk Steven Dewar. Scotia Pipers.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > My daughter is having a civil ceremony. It is a wonderful place, but they > have asked us to provide our own music. > Now we have had no problem deciding the "pre-wedding music", the "signing > the register" music, the "music to eat to!" or the reception music…. but > …. > WHAT ON EARTH should she walk down the aisle to? She doesn’t want the normal > ‘dum titty dum, tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum….’ > Help please > Sue > To reply personally, please remove the obvious!
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For something a little on the unique side, we’re probably using "All you need is Love" by the Beatles for me to walk down the aisle to. It’s got a great "fanfare" at the beginning and good walking tempo, and the sentiments in the words are fabulous. Another great one I saw used at a friend’s recent wedding is an oldie called "At Last" by Etta James. Good luck Margie to Frank Aug 25, 2001 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi, > My daughter is having a civil ceremony. It is a wonderful place, but they > have asked us to provide our own music. > Now we have had no problem deciding the "pre-wedding music", the "signing > the register" music, the "music to eat to!" or the reception music…. but > …. > WHAT ON EARTH should she walk down the aisle to? She doesn’t want the normal > ‘dum titty dum, tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum….’ > Help please > Sue > To reply personally, please remove the obvious!
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>For something a little on the unique side, we’re probably using "All you need >is Love" by the Beatles
We also went untraditional. We used Tuck and Patti’s "Takes my Breath Away". I heard it first in an exercise class and immediately realized that was what I wanted. I planned it so that I started my walk down the aisle timed to the line: "and when I feel your eyes on me," ag Lyrics follow: Sometimes it amazes me, how strong the power of love can be, and sometimes you just take my breath away. You’ve watched my love grow like a child, sometimes gentle and sometimes wild, and sometimes you just take my breath away. Chorus: It’s too good to slip by, it’s too good to lose, too good to be there just to use. Gonna stand on a mountain top and tell the news, that you take my breath away. Your beauty is there in all I see, and when I feel your eyes on me, ooh don’t you know you just take my breath away. My life is yours, my heart will be, singing for you eternally, oh don’t you know you just take my breath away.
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Whilst licking their paws in alt.wedding on 13 Jul 2001, "Bless" >Hi, >My daughter is having a civil ceremony. It is a wonderful place, but >they have asked us to provide our own music. >Now we have had no problem deciding the "pre-wedding music", the >"signing the register" music, the "music to eat to!" or the reception >music…. but …. >WHAT ON EARTH should she walk down the aisle to? She doesn’t want the >normal ‘dum titty dum, tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum….’ >Help please
We didn’t want the traditional wedding march either, so we’ve decided on Pachabel’s Canon in D. It’s a beautiful piece of music, and in fact we are having played by harp (on CD – we can’t afford a real harpist). But get hold of some Wedding CDs because they contain *loads* of music that you can choose from. — Vicki Cleaver Take the litter out to email me. http://robvickiengaged.cjb.net Engaged 05.12.2000 Wedding 27.10.2001 Passion brought us together now our love means we’ll never part.
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We walked in using a Quaker song, "’Tis a Gift to be Simple".
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Vivaldi’s Four Seasons is lovely. (If what they tell me is true, that’s what I used to walk down the aisle. However, this is the only part of the entire wedding that I don’t remember.) — Melissa 3/18/01
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > My daughter is having a civil ceremony. It is a wonderful place, but they > have asked us to provide our own music. > Now we have had no problem deciding the "pre-wedding music", the "signing > the register" music, the "music to eat to!" or the reception music…. but > …. > WHAT ON EARTH should she walk down the aisle to? She doesn’t want the normal > ‘dum titty dum, tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum….’ > Help please > Sue > To reply personally, please remove the obvious!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Vivaldi’s Four Seasons is lovely. (If what they tell me is true, that’s > what I used to walk down the aisle. However, this is the only part of the > entire wedding that I don’t remember.) > — > Melissa > 3/18/01 > Hi, > My daughter is having a civil ceremony. It is a wonderful place, but they > have asked us to provide our own music. > Now we have had no problem deciding the "pre-wedding music", the "signing > the register" music, the "music to eat to!" or the reception music…. but > …. > WHAT ON EARTH should she walk down the aisle to? She doesn’t want the > normal > ‘dum titty dum, tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum….’ > Help please > Sue > To reply personally, please remove the obvious!
Thanks everyone for replying personally and to Melissa too, I’ll give them all a try… but have to admit that I’ve never hear of some of the suggestions! Although I would probably know then if you "hummed" them! Sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Hi, My daughter is having a civil ceremony. It is a wonderful place, but they have asked us to provide our own music. Now we have had no problem deciding the "pre-wedding music", the "signing the register" music, the "music to eat to!" or the reception music…. but …. WHAT ON EARTH should she walk down the aisle to? She doesn’t want the normal ‘dum titty dum, tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum….’ Help please Sue To reply personally, please remove the obvious!
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I also didn’t want the Mendlesohn Bridal March (dum dum da dum) so I did a search for wedding music on the net and found some wedding CDs with some very nice music. Amazon.com has some good CDs and you can listen to clips- give you some idea of what you like. If you are playing a CD you can have anything! I am trying to imagine Trumpet Voluntary by a string quartet.. Another site I found was http://www.lib.virginia.edu/MusicLib/collect/wedding.html which gave suggestions for the processional, recessional, regisrty signing etc.. Good luck! JB – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi, > My daughter is having a civil ceremony. It is a wonderful place, but they > have asked us to provide our own music. > Now we have had no problem deciding the "pre-wedding music", the "signing > the register" music, the "music to eat to!" or the reception music…. but > …. > WHAT ON EARTH should she walk down the aisle to? She doesn’t want the normal > ‘dum titty dum, tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum tiddy dum….’ > Help please > Sue > To reply personally, please remove the obvious!
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I have a question to pose to the group. Why is it that Brides and Grooms are willing to pay $500 to $1500 for favors and or finger foods and they think that the entertainment at the reception should cost less than $300? I am a PRO DJ and I have had the experience on numerous occasions, a bride is shocked that I would charge $400 for a four hour reception. As a Professional, I have invested a lot of time and money to become a Pro and I think I deserve a reasonable fee for my time and sweat. Would you go to a friend or a very cheap doctor if you need heart surgery?? Professional Wedding DJs do a great deal more than play music. We coordinate,announce events and introductions,Motivate the crowd, and basically ensure that you and your guests have a memorable time. Think back to a wedding you have attended in the past——- Do you remember, Was the food great- How about the celery sticks? How were the favors? Do you remember how much fun you had with the bubbles? OR Do you remember haveing a great time dancing and laughing at the DJ? Favors and Fingerfoods make up about 5% of a reception, whereas, a Good DJ can make up about 85% of the reception. Just a question, and any comments would be appreciated. P.S. You get what you pay for!!!! Thank you for your time!! A DJ
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> I have a question to pose to the group. Why is it that Brides and Grooms > are willing to pay $500 to $1500 for favors and or finger foods and they > think that the entertainment at the reception should cost less than > $300?
We’re paying significantly more than $300 for our entertainment. We will not be having a DJ because we want good entertainment. > I am a PRO DJ and I have had the experience on numerous occasions, a > bride is shocked that I would charge $400 for a four hour reception.
Many people consider a DJ the cheap alternative, and by charging a lot of money, you’re going to lose out on many potential customers. If you want to charge $400, hey, capitalism happens, but it means you won’t book everyone. > As a Professional, I have invested a lot of time and money to
become a > Pro and I think I deserve a reasonable fee for my time and sweat. And as a customer, I have budgeted specific amounts after asking other HCs and considering other alternatives, and I am not willing to pay more unless I already have my heart set on a specific service. If I like the caterer and I’m impressed with his responsiveness and service, I will be more likely to go with an extra or two at an extra fee. If I like the entertainment, I am more likely to budget more. If I love the site, I am willing to wait a hear and a half for it. > Would you go to a friend or a very cheap doctor if you need heart > surgery?? Professional Wedding DJs do a great deal more than play > music.
I wasn’t aware of a decade-long training program for DJs. 75% of the DJs I’ve had to sit through can barely find an outlet with both hands. Many of them consider it an insult to their creative license to turn the volume down or play music from before last month. Perhaps a longer training program would be a good idea, but it’s certainly not the norm, which is why, again, people don’t expect to pay as much as you’re asking, apparently. > We coordinate,announce events and introductions,Motivate the crowd, and > basically ensure that you and your guests have a memorable time.
Here’s a problem. You think you’ve got this very important, integral, creative part to play, while most booking people think a DJ is there to, oh, FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. Don’t motivate, PRACTICE PRONOUNCING THE NAMES CORRECTLY. Don’t coordinate, FOLLOW THE SCHEDULE. >Think > back to a wedding you have attended in the past——- Do you remember, > Was the food great- How about the celery sticks? How were the favors? Do > you remember how much fun you had with the bubbles?
Yes. all of the above. > OR Do you remember haveing a great time dancing and laughing at the DJ?
At the DJ is the important part. "What a jerk. It would be a pity if a drink were poured right into his CD player" was one of the phrases uttered. > Favors and Fingerfoods make up about 5% of a reception, whereas, a Good > DJ can make up about 85% of the reception.
In your head.
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> If you want >to charge $400, hey, capitalism happens, but it means you won’t book >everyone.
$400 is inexpensive for a decent DJ where I live. (Our entertainment budget was well over that, btw.) Ron Ng Knows!
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brides some times say to me "We only want 10 pictures" I reply my minimum is — ~wedding-service~ UK http://www.wedding-service.co.uk Licentiate of the Royal Photographic Society
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If you want >to charge $400, hey, capitalism happens, but it means you won’t book >everyone. > $400 is inexpensive for a decent DJ where I live. > (Our entertainment budget was well over that, btw.) > Ron Ng Knows!
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> brides some times say to me "We only want 10 pictures" I reply my minimum is
WHOA! Now is that $1461.80 or $14,618.00 or $146,180. US? Ellen
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> I have a question to pose to the group. Why is it that Brides and Grooms > are willing to pay $500 to $1500 for favors and or finger foods and they > think that the entertainment at the reception should cost less than > $300?
Ya got me. Sound system/cd collection rental could easily come to that amount. > I am a PRO DJ and I have had the experience on numerous occasions, a > bride is shocked that I would charge $400 for a four hour reception. > As a Professional, I have invested a lot of time and money to become a > Pro and I think I deserve a reasonable fee for my time and sweat.
I agree. $400. is a bargain if you’re good which is probably the key. There are a lot of so-called hobbiest DJ’s that couldn’t announce the time of day let alone Master of Ceremony a wedding reception. > Would you go to a friend or a very cheap doctor if you need heart > surgery?? Professional Wedding DJs do a great deal more than play > music.
I personally wouldn’t hire a DJ unless they provided me a Real time tape of some of their work. Ya know, maybe you’re marketing approach needs work. It’s hard for many to imagine what a DJ will sound like when working. Off the top of my head, I would make some tapes or burn some cds that have various mixes – dinner music, dance and interludes, some live recordingsof announcements at real time weddings to loan or give prospectives. I would also have some photos taken, scanned and put on a cd or even use high quality resolution paper to show a variety of "looks"..meaning apparel. I would be prepared to wear a nice collarless white shirt with studs and good looking black pleated pants with a couple choices of sport jackets – black, blue and a linen color, etc. Let the prospective see that you’re not only a good DJ but you look stylish as well. Give them choices. People like choices. Market yourself to suit a variety of tastes and styles and maybe you’ll find less resistance to what you’re charging for your services. Ellen
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I think many people feel a DJ is more suited for a high school prom and not a serious, more formal event, such as a wedding. I’ve found that with the wide age ranges of guests attending a wedding, they all have different musical tastes and while a 20 year old can handle listening to Mozart, a 75 year old may have a bit of trouble listening to Dave Matthews Band. That aside, we are having a DJ at our reception, but only because a friend has the equipment and has offered his services. However, I will make certain that he doesn’t have the music up so loud as to drive away the older guests. — Kim < June 30th 2001 > – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have a question to pose to the group. Why is it that Brides and Grooms > are willing to pay $500 to $1500 for favors and or finger foods and they > think that the entertainment at the reception should cost less than > $300? > I am a PRO DJ and I have had the experience on numerous occasions, a > bride is shocked that I would charge $400 for a four hour reception. > As a Professional, I have invested a lot of time and money to become a > Pro and I think I deserve a reasonable fee for my time and sweat. > Would you go to a friend or a very cheap doctor if you need heart > surgery?? Professional Wedding DJs do a great deal more than play > music. > We coordinate,announce events and introductions,Motivate the crowd, and > basically ensure that you and your guests have a memorable time. Think > back to a wedding you have attended in the past——- Do you remember, > Was the food great- How about the celery sticks? How were the favors? Do > you remember how much fun you had with the bubbles? > OR Do you remember haveing a great time dancing and laughing at the DJ? > Favors and Fingerfoods make up about 5% of a reception, whereas, a Good > DJ can make up about 85% of the reception. > Just a question, and any comments would be appreciated. > P.S. You get what you pay for!!!! > Thank you for your time!! A DJ
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No, its $14,168,000.00 in US dollars. What a deal.
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> > We coordinate,announce events and introductions,Motivate the crowd, and > basically ensure that you and your guests have a memorable time. > Here’s a problem. > You think you’ve got this very important, integral, creative part to play, > while most booking people think a DJ is there to, oh, FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. > Don’t motivate, PRACTICE PRONOUNCING THE NAMES CORRECTLY. Don’t > coordinate, FOLLOW THE SCHEDULE.
At our post-honeymoon reception (hosted by my MIL), she arranged for a DJ. She went with the services of a SIL of one of her friends. He was a guest, so he had one of his employees do the job. The platter-spinner got the groom’s name *wrong*. Like, TOTALLY wrong. It begins with a K, he said something beginning with G. This was in a room full of his relatives and friends. Not impressive at all. (For the reception the day of our wedding, we hired a band. They were good, and they pronounced everyone’s names correctly.) — aMAZon "It’s never too late to have a happy childhood."
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> >> >Hey I’d say f me or get out better the second choice who ever that >prevert is > It is really fun how peoples can put words into your mouth just by splicing and > cutting as they choose to do. But it does appear as so that it is a little to > do about nothing. So the little peoples who have nothing to do. Must take us > away from the hands of time. So they have something to do.
Another drooling, incoherent photographer from rec.photo.techinque.people newsgroup who slithered his way over to the wedding newsgroups. Oh, joy of joys!
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Sure hope it ain’t nothing I said – muah! Baby Doll – everybody’s sweetheart
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Hey I’d say f me or get out better the second choice who ever that prevert is
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>Hey I’d say f me or get out better the second choice who ever that prevert is
This was not me that said this WB
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RBrac53660 wrote… >RBrac53660 wrote… >Hey I’d say f me or get out better the second choice who ever that
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>> >Hey I’d say f me or get out better the second choice who ever that >prevert is
It is really fun how peoples can put words into your mouth just by splicing and cutting as they choose to do. But it does appear as so that it is a little to do about nothing. So the little peoples who have nothing to do. Must take us away from the hands of time. So they have something to do.
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In alt.wedding before someone took away their crayons, >> >Hey I’d say f me or get out better the second choice who ever that >prevert is >It is really fun how peoples can put words into your mouth just by splicing and >cutting as they choose to do. But it does appear as so that it is a little to >do about nothing. So the little peoples who have nothing to do. Must take us >away from the hands of time. So they have something to do.
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Two great music sites for this type of research are: http://www.cdnow.com and http://music.yahoo.com If you’re playing ABBA at the wedding, you absolutely MUST play "I Do I Do I Do"!
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In article <Pine.GSO.4.05.10102032125160.10333- > We are great fans of abba… well at least my fiance is. For a fan, what > abba records should be played at our wedding ? Of course I know some of > the abba hits, and I like them, but I would like to surprise my fiance and > play ‘them’ all. Is there an abba web site somewhere ? > Thanks, Irene
Nothing says "wedding music" like tunes from a group made up of two married couples that eventually both split up… -Tim
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On the Muriel’s Wedding soundtrack, there is an instrumental version of Dancing Queen. It was my processional song and it was so much fun. People LOVED it and clapped as I walked down the aisle. It was very memorable, theatrical and extremely fun. Our event was not conservative, so it worked well. In article <Pine.GSO.4.05.10102032125160.10333- > We are great fans of abba… well at least my fiance is. For a fan, what > abba records should be played at our wedding ? Of course I know some of > the abba hits, and I like them, but I would like to surprise my fiance and > play ‘them’ all. Is there an abba web site somewhere ? > Thanks, Irene
– Melissa http://photos.yahoo.com/malgaze
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If I was at your reception, I would run screaming from the room after about the – ummmm – third song. Something to think about. Poots In article <Pine.GSO.4.05.10102032125160.10333- > We are great fans of abba… well at least my fiance is. For a fan, what > abba records should be played at our wedding ? Of course I know some of > the abba hits, and I like them, but I would like to surprise my fiance and > play ‘them’ all. Is there an abba web site somewhere ? > Thanks, Irene
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I remember when I was in high school, all the guys would tell me that Abba’s song, Dancing Queen was writen about me! Lap dances that is. I lost count on the number of guys’ crotches that I would grind my tush into while their girlfriend cheerleeders were out practing, LOL! I DO believe that I was the only girl in school who knew full well what the guys’ lockerroom looked liked. Baby Doll – everybody’s sweetheart
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Get Lost – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I remember when I was in high school, all the guys would tell me that > Abba’s song, Dancing Queen was writen about me! Lap dances that is. I > lost count on the number of guys’ crotches that I would grind my tush > into while their girlfriend cheerleeders were out practing, LOL! I DO > believe that I was the only girl in school who knew full well what the > guys’ lockerroom looked liked. > Baby Doll – everybody’s sweetheart > [Click for Las Vegas, Nevad Forecast]
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Right. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On the Muriel’s Wedding soundtrack, there is an instrumental version of > Dancing Queen. It was my processional song and it was so much fun. > People LOVED it and clapped as I walked down the aisle. It was very > memorable, theatrical and extremely fun. Our event was not > conservative, so it worked well. > Oh, that’s a beautiful recording. I had forgotten all about that. The > one with the bells and choir, right? > Ellen
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> On the Muriel’s Wedding soundtrack, there is an instrumental version of > Dancing Queen. It was my processional song and it was so much fun. > People LOVED it and clapped as I walked down the aisle. It was very > memorable, theatrical and extremely fun. Our event was not > conservative, so it worked well.
Oh, that’s a beautiful recording. I had forgotten all about that. The one with the bells and choir, right? Ellen
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Is there an abba web site somewhere ? Why don’t you try doing a search.
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Dana wrote… > Is there an abba web site somewhere ? > Why don’t you try doing a search.
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We are great fans of abba… well at least my fiance is. For a fan, what abba records should be played at our wedding ? Of course I know some of the abba hits, and I like them, but I would like to surprise my fiance and play ‘them’ all. Is there an abba web site somewhere ? Thanks, Irene
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